# Valerie Plame is running for Congress...
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [September 10, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962 "2019-09-10T04:05:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/1 "2019-09-10T04:05:36Z")
…and holy shit, [her first campaign ad](https://youtu.be/ICW-dGD1M18) is awesome.
I may have to move to New Mexico just so I can vote for her.
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### Author:  [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/2 "2019-09-10T04:24:08Z")
It is indeed one of the most awesomely kickass ads I have never seen – and not even limiting that to political ads. Madison Avenue, take note!
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/3 "2019-09-10T04:29:35Z")
That is a first-class kick-ass campaign ad!
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### Author:  [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/4 "2019-09-10T04:31:25Z")
OTOH, it is somewhat unsatisfactory as a political ad, as it provides no specifics about her political agenda. What is she actually intending to do for NM or the USA?
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### Author:  [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/5 "2019-09-10T04:35:19Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#):
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> …What is she actually intending to do for NM or the USA?
I’m guessing but I would say, she intends to kick some ass.
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### Author:  [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/6 "2019-09-10T04:36:23Z")
Valerie Plame is one remarkable lady. What was done to her and her husband, Joe Wilson, by the GWB administration for daring to reveal the administration’s lies re Iraq seeking to purchase yellowcake uranium in Niger was dangerous and criminal – as evidenced by Libby’s conviction and Trump’s subsequent pardon of Libby.
I hope she wins. She’ll be a fantastic representative.
I see Jon Ossoff has formally announced he will run for the Georgia US Senate seat currently occupied by David Perdue. That’s wonderful news, too.
Both Plame and Ossoff will be formidable candidates.
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### Author:  [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/7 "2019-09-10T05:01:28Z")
That is a good ad. And I respect her service and her fighting with the Bush administration. But, uh, didn’t she retweet some antisemitic crap a couple years ago? [Valerie Plame - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#Antisemitism_controversy)
I haven’t really followed her all that much since the Scooter Libby era.
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### Author:  [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/8 "2019-09-10T05:18:03Z")
That’s a good ad.
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### Author:  [@kirkrapine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kirkrapine)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/9 "2019-09-10T05:26:42Z")
WRT the CIA, what the country needs more than anything else is a new round of [Church Hearings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee). Plame, as an ex-CIA, would be optimally suited to lead the way.
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### Author:  [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/10 "2019-09-10T11:42:24Z")
I like the ad. She’s a badass.
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### Author:  [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/11 "2019-09-10T12:42:37Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#):
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> OTOH, it is somewhat unsatisfactory as a political ad, as it provides no specifics about her political agenda. What is she actually intending to do for NM or the USA?
Valid point, but first she needs to get your attention (yes, she was famous for awhile but that was years ago, while American memory these days can be measured in…minutes?). And fast cars and attractive women (and she is attractive) grab the attention, especially of male voters, while the topics she mentions are of interest to women. Once you have their attention, you can fill in the blanks.
Agreed, if you want to hit the mule with a 2-by-4, this is the way to do it.
IMHO as always. YMMV.
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### Author:  [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/12 "2019-09-10T13:00:21Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#):
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> OTOH, it is somewhat unsatisfactory as a political ad, as it provides no specifics about her political agenda.
What country are you from? This is the USA. We don’t need no stinkin’ political agendas, we need charisma, catchy slogans, and the ability to call our opponents derogatory nicknames. Being attractive helps too.
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### Author:  [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/13 "2019-09-10T13:10:32Z")
> [@kirkrapine](#):
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> It is indeed one of the most awesomely kickass ads I have never seen – and not even limiting that to political ads. Madison Avenue, take note!
She needs to practice her J turns.
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### Author:  [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/14 "2019-09-10T13:19:58Z")
It’s a good ad.
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### Author:  [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/15 "2019-09-10T13:50:03Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> That is a good ad. And I respect her service and her fighting with the Bush administration. But, uh, didn’t she retweet some antisemitic crap a couple years ago? [Valerie Plame - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame#Antisemitism_controversy)
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> I haven’t really followed her all that much since the Scooter Libby era.
I hadn’t heard about this so I followed your link. It would have been helpful to us all if you had quoted the relevant part, rather than leave it up to people to imagine and speculate or to do the work themselves (we’re all working hard to keep our buckets of fried mayonnaise balls from tipping over, eh).
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> In September 2017, tweeted a link to an article from The Unz Review website posted by Philip Giraldi, titled “America’s Jews Are Driving America’s Wars”, repeating the title of the article in her tweet.[88][1] The article said that certain “American Jews who lack any shred of integrity” should be given a special label when appearing on television: “kind-of-like a warning label on a bottle of rat poison.”[1] Amid criticism, Plame first defended her posts, replying on Twitter that “Many neocon hawks ARE Jewish.”[1][2] She also said that people should “read the entire article” without “biases.”[89] Within two hours she deleted her initial post and apologized, tweeting **“OK folks, look, I messed up. I skimmed this piece, zeroed in on the neocon criticism, and shared it without seeing and considering the rest. I missed gross undercurrents to this article & didn’t do my homework on the platform this piece came from. Now that I see it, it’s obvious. Apologies all. There is so much there that’s problematic AF and I should have recognized it sooner. Thank you for pushing me to look again. I’m not perfect and make mistakes. This was a doozy. All I can do is admit them, try to be better, and read more thoroughly next time, Ugh.”** [90] Ramesh Ponnuru and Caleb Ecarma have argued that the incident followed a pattern of her posting content critical of Israel, neoconservatives, and of Plame making jokes about “rich Jews”.[91][92] She had tweeted at least eight articles from the same website before,[3] in which she previously retweeted links to conspiracy theories of ‘dancing Israelis’ being behind the 9/11 attacks.
That was two years ago. Unless other incidents have occurred since then, I’m willing to accept her explanation and apology. If new facts come to light, I’ll re-assess. Doesn’t matter much what I think of her tho as I do not live in New Mexico.
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/16 "2019-09-10T13:59:36Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> I’m guessing but I would say, she intends to kick some ass.
Before I give her my support, I need to know her position on chewing gum and ensuring adequate supplies thereof.
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/17 "2019-09-10T14:14:00Z")
Love the ad. Wish she were running for President.
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### Author:  [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/18 "2019-09-10T14:39:24Z")
What has she got that Trump hasn’t?
Apart from honesty, service to her country, maturity, charisma, fairness, decency and competence of course…
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### Author:  [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/19 "2019-09-10T14:42:43Z")
> [@glee](#):
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> What has she got that Trump hasn’t?
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> Apart from honesty, service to her country, maturity, charisma, fairness, decency and competence of course…
I suspect she’d be less dismissive of intelligence reports.
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### Author:  [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [September 10, 2019, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valerie-plame-is-running-for-congress/839962/20 "2019-09-10T14:43:59Z")
> [@glee](#):
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> What has she got that Trump hasn’t?
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> Apart from honesty, service to her country, maturity, charisma, fairness, decency and competence of course…
The aqueducts?
Remember that she was a CIA operative - honesty, fairness and decency may be optional add-ons, although even this sets her apart from Trump who is incapable of even faking any of those.
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