# Valete, Vox Imperatoris

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419 "2009-01-22T06:23:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/41 "2009-01-22T17:18:58Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Symbolism. The word you’re looking for is _ **symbolism** _.

Sarcasm. The workd you’re looking for is _ **sarcasm** _.

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/42 "2009-01-22T17:25:56Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> Pretty much this. I really don’t understand what the big deal about this is. “But it’s annoying!” I find the weekly threads bitching about it even moreso. Get the fuck over it.

No.  
Iit’s structurally incorrect. There’s no need to repeat your name in a post that actually includes it. Even if you are signing with a different name is still redundant. And you shouldn’t sign off unless you are leaving the thread for good. That’s damn basic writing logic, and I will keep fighting for this until the moment Borborygmi says different.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/43 "2009-01-22T17:31:19Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> Iit’s structurally incorrect. There’s no need to repeat your name in a post that actually includes it. Even if you are signing with a different name is still redundant. And you shouldn’t sign off unless you are leaving the thread for good. That’s damn basic writing logic, and I will keep fighting for this until the moment Borborygmi says different.

Despite my previous post, I will concede that there’s something to this. I have a good friend in his mid-50s with whom I email a lot. He always signs his emails and for some reason I feel compelled to do the same in my responses. It’s pretty ridiculous considering I’m not going to open the email in the first place if I don’t know who it’s from. Your name is right there next to the subject! I think, in his case, it comes from writing traditional letters for most of his life. I can’t imagine where the teenage Vox Imperatoris got it from.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/44 "2009-01-22T17:41:50Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> No.  
> Iit’s structurally incorrect. There’s no need to repeat your name in a post that actually includes it. Even if you are signing with a different name is still redundant. And you shouldn’t sign off unless you are leaving the thread for good. That’s damn basic writing logic, and I will keep fighting for this until the moment Borborygmi says different.

Well then, you get on down with your bad self.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/45 "2009-01-22T17:48:41Z")

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Rumoresque senum severiorum omnes unius aestimemus assis.

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/46 "2009-01-22T17:53:09Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> […]and I will keep fighting for this until the moment Borborygmi says different.

Heh. The moment has not arrived. But it should be noted that I can be bought.

Etiamtum,  
Borborygmi

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/47 "2009-01-22T17:59:07Z")

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O Sebili, Si emgo,  
forti bussesinaro,  
no bili, demis trux,  
vatis inem,  
caus et dux.  
Or some such shite.

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/48 "2009-01-22T18:14:23Z")

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It’s annoying because half the time he responds with only a few words so that his sig line is nearly as long as his post.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/49 "2009-01-22T18:29:12Z")

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His signature behavior is annoying, but there are better reasons to have a beef with this **Imperatoris**. Besides being a Gluteus Maximus on many subjects (like his justification on why not to fund public libraries), **Vox** fits the definition of a classic Flame Warrior:

The Profundus Maximus.  
[http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/profundusmaximus.htm](http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/profundusmaximus.htm)

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> Profundus Maximus often uses big words, obscure terms and…ahem…even Latin to bluff his way through battle..

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**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/50 "2009-01-22T20:27:57Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Not many people know this, but I am the rightful emperor of China. (My reign-name is Dong Hang Lo. Of the Wang Dynasty.)

Don’t be juvenile. It’s a high minded, serious discussion. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/51 "2009-01-22T20:59:02Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> O Sebili, Si emgo,  
> forti bussesinaro,  
> no bili, demis trux,  
> vatis inem,  
> caus et dux.  
> Or some such shite.

_Caesar adsum iam forti  
Pompei aderat;  
Caesar sic in omnibus,  
Pompei siccinat.  
Itis apis spotanda fineo ne._

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/52 "2009-01-22T22:40:37Z")

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> [@Sr\_Siete](#):
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> No.  
> Iit’s structurally incorrect. There’s no need to repeat your name in a post that actually includes it. Even if you are signing with a different name is still redundant. And you shouldn’t sign off unless you are leaving the thread for good. That’s damn basic writing logic, and I will keep fighting for this until the moment Borborygmi says different.

So, if your company letterhead has your name at the top, you don’t sign off with your name?

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/53 "2009-01-22T22:55:14Z")

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I think the /ignore idea just won out. I usually dont ignore people who dont actively piss me off in some way or another but I think its valid, his posts are usually not worth the read in the first place and seeing that stupid phrase 97 times a day is one of those aggravating things that really doesnt have a good reason. (yes Shodan has the same issue, just a lower volume of posts…at least in the places I read)

fuckit, welcome to ignore.

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/54 "2009-01-22T22:58:58Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> So, if your company letterhead has your name at the top, you don’t sign off with your name?

No. Even if the name of your company was your exact name, and you were the only member of said company, it could be assumed that people other than you could use that piece of paper. That’s why in that context it makes sense to mention that you are the author somewhere visible.

See? I’m not some crazy idiot who is against all forms of signing. I’m only against it when they are wrongly used, like when the only thing they do is clutter the message with redundancy. You can try to make up all sort of examples to try to trap me into a conundrum, but what I’m saying is too ridiculously simple for that to work: signatures have got a function, identify the owner, and this is already covered by your name in big blue letters at the top of the post, making them unnecessary, stupid and distracting.

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/55 "2009-01-23T00:42:41Z")

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I must say that I don’t know why these sigs annoy me, but they do. If there is a logical reason to it, damned if I can tell you what it is… but when this topic came up a while ago, and it was decided that this annoying signature style was permitted, I discovered the “ignore” function.

For the life of me, I can’t figure out why someone would actually feel the need to type that silly little sign-off in each posting. But since some insist, I just ignore. I have to say I don’t miss their posts in the slightest.

I also don’t know why it bugs me. But I see I’m not alone. Perhaps it’s the constant, repetitive nature of something that adds absolutely no value to the posting.

Valete,  
Enjoy,  
Regards,  
Bite me,  
SFP

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/56 "2009-01-23T00:49:43Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> If there is a logical reason to it, damned if I can tell you what it is…

Of course there’s a logical reason for it, and that is because you’re a weenie. Even more so if you actually use the ignore feature because of it. That’s weenie-squared.

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**Author:** ![Vox\_Imperatoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/57 "2009-01-23T00:59:25Z")

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Not this again! In the other thread about this exact same subject, **Ed Zotti** personally came out and okayed a one- or two-line signature as an acceptable exception to the one-sig-per-thread rule.

Valete,  
Vox Imperatoris

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**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/58 "2009-01-23T01:04:25Z")

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> [@Q.E.D](#):
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> Of course there’s a logical reason for it, and that is because you’re a weenie. Even more so if you actually use the ignore feature because of it. That’s weenie-squared.

weenie?!!? Man, that hurts.

But that’s not the reason. Whether or not I’m a weenie has no bearing on the fact that it annoys me. And it annoys many people on the board. We can’t ALL be weenies. For me, it boils down to this: if they can’t put it in their sig, so I can choose to ignore it without ignoring their post, then fine… that’s their right. But to shove it in their post so I **have** to see it? That’s just obnoxious. And it’s my right to ignore the entire post.

QED,  
Valete,  
Ole!,  
My Sherona,  
Chumba Wumba,  
Just Say No

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/59 "2009-01-23T01:06:23Z")

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> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#):
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> Not this again! In the other thread about this exact same subject, **Ed Zotti** personally came out and okayed a one- or two-line signature as an acceptable exception to the one-sig-per-thread rule.
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> Valete,  
> Vox Imperatoris

It still maks no damn sense. I **know** you are Vox Imperatoris. I can **read it**. Up there, in your post, in big blue letters. This is insane!

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/60 "2009-01-23T01:13:47Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> And it annoys many people on the board. We can’t ALL be weenies.

Yes, you’re all weenies. Every last one of you. Sorry.

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