# Valete, Vox Imperatoris **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 22, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419 "2009-01-22T06:23:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/81 "2009-01-23T06:04:42Z")
I think it’s funny. Yours forever, Kirsten Dunst ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/82 "2009-01-23T06:28:13Z")
Ort-snay! ---
**Author:** ![Jeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/83 "2009-01-23T06:38:47Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > I’m pretty sure the last Regards, Shodan thread was longer and more heated than this. That sounds like a challenge! Semper fudge, Jeff ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/84 "2009-01-23T06:42:16Z")
> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > Not this again! In the other thread about this exact same subject, **Ed Zotti** personally came out and okayed a one- or two-line signature as an acceptable exception to the one-sig-per-thread rule. > > Valete, > Vox Imperatoris > [@Loach](#): > > As you can see at the top I chimed in to say that another thread on this subject was ridiculous. However, I think you can see by now that a very large percentage of poster find it stupid and annoying. At best it is making people discount your opinion. At worst it makes people think you are a giant tool. Is that the reaction you are going for? You seem to have opinions you want to express. Why clutter them up with this crap? “Because I can” is a lousy reason and will put me in the he’s a giant tool camp. Right. The kid’s just trying to show off. He doesn’t care that he’s annoying a significant portion of the membership, gotta let us all know that he knows latin. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/85 "2009-01-23T08:09:29Z")
A classical signature would be all Greek to me - to _koine_ a phrase. ---
**Author:** ![3trew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/13edae/32.png) [@3trew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3trew)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/86 "2009-01-23T08:48:05Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > As you can see at the top I chimed in to say that another thread on this subject was ridiculous. However, I think you can see by now that a very large percentage of poster find it stupid and annoying. At best it is making people discount your opinion. At worst it makes people think you are a giant tool. Is that the reaction you are going for? You seem to have opinions you want to express. Why clutter them up with this crap? “Because I can” is a lousy reason and will put me in the he’s a giant tool camp. **Vox** ’s little appendage is obviously very important to him. It doesn’t matter whether you want to see his little appendage or not, he’s going to show it to you. Peace Enjoy Love In accordance with the prophecy Bite me Regards Midgards What’s a henway? Pobig Gobreek Alamagoosalam That’s what she said Ia! PC load letter? What the fuck does that mean? My God, it’s full of stars e pur si muove I pity the foo’ Spoon! ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/87 "2009-01-23T10:22:24Z")
> [@Johnny\_Angel](#): > > Rumoresque senum severiorum omnes unius aestimemus assis. > [@An\_Gadai](#): > > O Sebili, Si emgo, > forti bussesinaro, > no bili, demis trux, > vatis inem, > caus et dux. > Or some such shite. - Me transmitte sursum, Caledoni.\* ---
**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/88 "2009-01-23T11:03:17Z")
> [@Creaky](#): > > Ubi, o, ubi > Est mea sub ubi? Back in a time when dinosaurs roamed the world, some of us altar boys at St. John the Apostle thought this was the funniest thing ever. We tried to use it on any and all occasions and even tried to sneak it into the mass at times. \*sotto voce, of course. We killed ourselves.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/89 "2009-01-23T11:24:18Z")
> [@Sr\_Siete](#): > > No. Even if the name of your company was your exact name, and you were the only member of said company, it could be assumed that people other than you could use that piece of paper. That’s why in that context it makes sense to mention that you are the author somewhere visible. > > See? I’m not some crazy idiot who is against all forms of signing. I’m only against it when they are wrongly used, like when the only thing they do is clutter the message with redundancy. You can try to make up all sort of examples to try to trap me into a conundrum, but what I’m saying is too ridiculously simple for that to work: signatures have got a function, identify the owner, and this is already covered by your name in big blue letters at the top of the post, making them unnecessary, stupid and distracting. I think he meant your own personal information, not the company letterhead. In a standard business letter, your name and address are at the top of the page. Everybody still signs 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/90 "2009-01-23T11:30:00Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > I think he meant your own personal information, not the company letterhead. In a standard business letter, your name and address are at the top of the page. Everybody still signs 'em. You will write down your Hancock to make it more difficult for somebody else to use one of your letters, but you will probably not repeat the information that is already there. It’s still form following function, not some arbitrary convention. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/91 "2009-01-23T13:28:23Z")
> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > Not this again! In the other thread about this exact same subject, **Ed Zotti** personally came out and okayed a one- or two-line signature as an acceptable exception to the one-sig-per-thread rule. > > Valete, > Vox Imperatoris The fact that **Ed** gave you permission doesn’t have diddly to do with the fact that a small but vocal minority of us find it annoying as hell. The good news is that by continuing to use it, you continue to remind me, for one, that you’re a little twit who’s in over his head here. Otherwise I might be in danger of forgetting that. No, wait, I wouldn’t, not with posts like this: > [@Writing: What is "voice" and "tone"?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/writing-what-is-voice-and-tone/482469/5): > > Voice is also the category into which “active” and “passive” fall. > > Valete, > Vox Imperatoris in a Cafe Society thread on “voice” and “tone” in written prose. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/92 "2009-01-23T13:57:39Z")
> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#): > > Not this again! In the other thread about this exact same subject, **Ed Zotti** personally came out and okayed a one- or two-line signature as an acceptable exception to the one-sig-per-thread rule. Blah, Blah Blah I realize he’s kind of in charge or something around here (he gets to make up fora on pretty much of a whim, apparently), but getting his seal of approval doesn’t mean that what you’re doing is no longer annoying to a great many people. For some, it actually counts against you. Consider that any given pitting occurs because some people think the pittee is being a jerk. The longer the thread, the more the people. Having Ed’s get-out-of-jerkness-free seal of approval is, quite literally, the only thing keeping people from reporting your posts, not because they break the rules on sig lines, but because you are deliberately doing something pointless and you don’t care whether or not you upset people. Which is to say, you’re being a jerk, and, to a lesser degree, a troll. Which is against the rules. Have a nice day. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/93 "2009-01-23T14:29:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Not many people know this, but I am the rightful emperor of China. (My reign-name is Dong Hang Lo. Of the Wang Dynasty.) No wonder everyone thinks you’re a dick. 😉 > [@Malacandra](#): > > A classical signature would be all Greek to me - to _koine_ a phrase. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/94 "2009-01-23T15:16:36Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > Sure you can. Well, you could be right in theory. But in reality, you are wrong. As I’ve stated, making it your sig is fine. I can ignore the sig. Shoving it in as part of your post so we are all forced to see it? That’s just being a tool. I think the weenies in this case are those that feel that their clever signoff is so vital to their post that they refuse to use their sig. The OP points out the exact reason why many of us find it annoying. Oscar Meyer, Ball Park, Nathans, Vox Valete, Frank Burns eats worms. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/95 "2009-01-23T15:17:41Z")
> [@Critical1](#): > > I think the /ignore idea just won out. I usually dont ignore people who dont actively piss me off in some way or another but I think its valid, his posts are usually not worth the read in the first place and seeing that stupid phrase 97 times a day is one of those aggravating things that really doesnt have a good reason. (yes Shodan has the same issue, just a lower volume of posts…at least in the places I read) > > fuckit, welcome to ignore. **Mod note:** One of our little quirks here in the Pit is that you can’t state or imply that someone is on your ignore list. Don’t do this again. Incidentally, while we allow one- or two-line sigs in posts, that’s because we don’t feel like wasting time trying to stamp them out. It doesn’t mean we endorse the practice. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/96 "2009-01-23T17:31:14Z")
So the consensus is that “Valete” can be translated as “Sod off”? I can sign onto that one, sure. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/97 "2009-01-23T17:38:12Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > **Mod note:** One of our little quirks here in the Pit is that you can’t state or imply that someone is on your ignore list. Don’t do this again. Incidentally, while we allow one- or two-line sigs in posts, that’s because we don’t feel like wasting time trying to stamp them out. It doesn’t mean we endorse the practice. Umm… By having a rule that isn’t enforced, you _do realise_ that you are setting yourselves up for some more heartache, don’cha? Remember, a short time ago someone got suspended for breaking a rule that was rarely enforced, until a particular ox was gored. (Misleading thread titles, if I recall.) Lot’s of hate and discontent. (I think the sentence was commuted. Heh. ) VR ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/98 "2009-01-23T17:40:43Z")
> [@Attack\_from\_the\_3rd\_dimension](#): > > Band Name. Actually, a couple of band names. Style Inquisition has a way 80’s sound to it.\ Oh, totally! Man, why can’t I go back in time and create a band in the 80’s named “The Style Inquisition”? I suppose I can make a t-shirt like that. Or better yet, someone with some chops could make a t-shirt like that! I see The Grammar Nazis as a heavy metal/thrash kind of band, in the Rammstein _oeuvre_. The Syntax Crusaders are more of a militant black band, like Living Colour. The Grand Semiotic Conspiracy would have made an excellent 90’s band - nice and pretentious and full of itself. **Sr Siete** , you make awesome band names. 😃 (For the record, I find **Vox Imperatoris’** continued use of a signoff (in Latin, no less) in every post somewhat irritating, but not enough to Pit it or anything. You keep doing something that people have clearly told you they don’t like, and see how far that gets you in life.) ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/99 "2009-01-23T17:41:55Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > So the consensus is that “Valete” can be translated as “Sod off”? > > I can sign onto that one, sure. No, no no! you sign _off_ with it. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/100 "2009-01-23T17:50:46Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > Oh, totally! Man, why can’t I go back in time and create a band in the 80’s named “The Style Inquisition”? I suppose I can make a t-shirt like that. Or better yet, someone with some chops could make a t-shirt like that! There was the band The Style _Council_ featuring Paul Weller. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419.md?page=6)