# Valete, Vox Imperatoris

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419 "2009-01-22T06:23:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/101 "2009-01-23T17:59:30Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I’m pretty sure the last Regards, Shodan thread was longer and more heated than this.

Perhaps, but were there two of them for Shodan, like there have been for Vox? Honestly, I can’t recall.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/102 "2009-01-23T18:00:31Z")

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I think it’s obnoxious, but only because it’s in Latin. I’ve seen people busted down for using Spanish and French in their sigs and posts, but Latin somehow gets a pass. I don’t read Latin. I’m not impressed by anyone’s ability to remind me of that at every available opportunity.

Signoffs don’t bother me and I think they’re kinda cute. But uneccesary pretention really gets on my nerves. If I wanted to deal with that shit I would have finished my philosophy major.

Nothing personal against the kid. Maybe he’s just really passionate about his second language. I can relate to that.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/103 "2009-01-23T18:05:24Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> I think it’s obnoxious, but only because it’s in Latin. I’ve seen people busted down for using Spanish and French in their sigs and posts, but Latin somehow gets a pass. I don’t read Latin. I’m not impressed by anyone’s ability to remind me of that at every available opportunity.
> 
> Signoffs don’t bother me and I think they’re kinda cute. But uneccesary pretention really gets on my nerves. If I wanted to deal with that shit I would have finished my philosophy major.
> 
> Nothing personal against the kid. Maybe he’s just really passionate about his second language. I can relate to that.

Ceapaim go bhfuil tú ceart.

Is mise, le meas,  
An gadaí

😛

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**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/104 "2009-01-23T18:11:37Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> **Mod note:** One of our little quirks here in the Pit is that you can’t state or imply that someone is on your ignore list. Don’t do this again. Incidentally, while we allow one- or two-line sigs in posts, that’s because we don’t feel like wasting time trying to stamp them out. It doesn’t mean we endorse the practice.

apologies, I was unaware of this quirk…and while I do accept the rule I have to say its kinda funny in the pit.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/105 "2009-01-23T18:12:59Z")

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These sigs that are unblockable are rude. I disagree strongly witht eh new ruel that allows them. They are becoming even more common and even more annoying.

\*\*Thank you for reading!

Regards,

Salutations,

Salivations!

Peace!

War!

Good posting!

Happy trails to you!

Goodnight America!

The Doctor of Deth. \*\*

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/106 "2009-01-23T18:15:03Z")

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> [@jjimm](#):
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> Sarcasm. The workd you’re looking for is _ **sarcasm** _.

Correct me if I’m wrong.

I took it as a line from Boondock Saints, and not as a dig at you.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/107 "2009-01-23T18:16:02Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> **Mod note:** One of our little quirks here in the Pit is that you can’t state or imply that someone is on your ignore list. Don’t do this again. Incidentally, while we allow one- or two-line sigs in posts, that’s because we don’t feel like wasting time trying to stamp them out. It doesn’t mean we endorse the practice.

Why not try that they are against the rules rather than allowing them? I am not saying that this should be a major thing for the Mods to work on, but many dudes would just go along with new rules, as soon as they knew of them.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/108 "2009-01-23T18:24:02Z")

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What was the reasoning behind not just requiring a sign off be put into the signature?  
That way those who do not wish to see it, won’t.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/109 "2009-01-23T18:30:54Z")

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> [@RetroVertigo](#):
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> What was the reasoning behind not just requiring a sign off be put into the signature?  
> That way those who do not wish to see it, won’t.

See [post 30](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10727438&postcount=30)above.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/110 "2009-01-23T18:34:20Z")

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> [@olivesmarch4th](#):
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> I think it’s obnoxious, but only because it’s in Latin. I’ve seen people busted down for using Spanish and French in their sigs and posts, but Latin somehow gets a pass. I don’t read Latin. I’m not impressed by anyone’s ability to remind me of that at every available opportunity.
> 
> Signoffs don’t bother me and I think they’re kinda cute. But uneccesary pretention really gets on my nerves. If I wanted to deal with that shit I would have finished my philosophy major.
> 
> Nothing personal against the kid. Maybe he’s just really passionate about his second language. I can relate to that.

I know that feeling. I chose my username because I was passionate about Latin, though obviously I attempted to keep the pretentiousness at a minimum. I’ve cooled down some, but I still reflexivly rebut people who say Latin is a dead language. Because it’s _not_!

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/111 "2009-01-23T18:35:00Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> These sigs that are unblockable are rude. I disagree strongly witht eh new ruel that allows them. They are becoming even more common and even more annoying.
> 
> \*\*Thank you for reading!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Salutations,
> 
> Salivations!
> 
> Peace!
> 
> War!
> 
> Good posting!
> 
> Happy trails to you!
> 
> Goodnight America!
> 
> The Doctor of Deth. \*\*

“Duck”, says I.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/112 "2009-01-23T18:38:51Z")

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> [@Stink Fish Pot](#):
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> Well, you could be right in theory. But in reality, you are wrong.

I’m right in both theory and practice. The fact that you, and a small but vocal handful of others, are letting something so trivial irritate you so much proves your weenieness. Most people don’t let something so insignificant affect them so deeply.

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**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/113 "2009-01-23T18:39:33Z")

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> [@Vox\_Imperatoris](#):
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> Not this again! In the other thread about this exact same subject, **Ed Zotti** personally came out and okayed a one- or two-line signature as an acceptable exception to the one-sig-per-thread rule.
> 
> Valete,  
> Vox Imperatoris

You have confused the teacher’s reluctant permission with the teacher’s blessing.

I suspect that when you are 16, any personal attention from the Teacher beats none at all, even if the attention was generated by farting repeatedly at the back of the class.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/114 "2009-01-23T18:41:16Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> I’ve cooled down some, but I still reflexivly rebut people who say Latin is a dead language. Because it’s _not_!

It just smells funny.

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/115 "2009-01-23T18:58:32Z")

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> [@Chief\_Pedant](#):
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> You have confused the teacher’s reluctant permission with the teacher’s blessing.

Bingo. We said you could do it–that doesn’t mean we think you should.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/116 "2009-01-23T19:10:49Z")

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> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#):
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> I’m right in both theory and practice. The fact that you, and a small but vocal handful of others, are letting something so trivial irritate you so much proves your weenieness. Most people don’t let something so insignificant affect them so deeply.

Ever work with someone who slurped soup or snapped their gum? Now, ever try asking them to stop because it bugs you, and they say something like, “Well, the boss hasn’t told me not to do it, so I’m going to do it as much as I like”? That’s the level of irritation here; not super-irritating, but exacerbated by the attitude of 'I’ll do what I like even though I know people don’t like it."

I wouldn’t be judging what bugs other people, either. I would put money on the idea that you are bothered by something in your life that others would consider trivial, too.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/117 "2009-01-23T19:15:17Z")

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> [@Gfactor](#):
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> Bingo. We said you could do it–that doesn’t mean we think you should.

:smack: Now I feel stoopid for my post #97.

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/118 "2009-01-23T19:16:00Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> **Mod note:** One of our little quirks here in the Pit is that you can’t state or imply that someone is on your ignore list. Don’t do this again. Incidentally, while we allow one- or two-line sigs in posts, that’s because we don’t feel like wasting time trying to stamp them out. It doesn’t mean we endorse the practice.

You know, I don’t understand the rationale for this rule. It seems like socially irritating habits such as Vox’s signature are most appropriately dealt with by mass shunning.

Who, exactly, is going to be harmed by my writing “PosterX is on my ignore list”? If PosterX is genuinely annoying or obnoxious, it seems that I am justified. If PosterX is a good citizen, then all such an announcement does is reveal my own stupidity or intolerance.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/119 "2009-01-23T19:19:46Z")

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I’m a little confused here.

Firstly, because this is (and always was) a stupid topic – it’s just meddling in other people’s personal habits/style/content/posting.

Secondly, I honestly don’t see how a one or two line signoff could be more distracting, or more superfluous, than the “Quick reply to this post” button attached to each and every post, despite the fact that there’s ALSO a quick reply box at the bottom of each thread AND a regular reply button. Nobody complains about those.

Thirdly, I see now that the signoffs are tolerated despite having [recently been told they are not](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10600066&postcount=58). But not tolerated with any enthusiasm.

This whole topic seems so weird to me. Those of you who find the signoffs unavoidable irritants, do you find yourselves stuck reading postage stamps and bar codes and other small, predictable, repeated markings?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/valete-vox-imperatoris/482419/120 "2009-01-23T19:25:54Z")

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> [@neuroman](#):
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> Who, exactly, is going to be harmed by my writing “PosterX is on my ignore list”? If PosterX is genuinely annoying or obnoxious, it seems that I am justified. If PosterX is a good citizen, then all such an announcement does is reveal my own stupidity or intolerance.

That’s pretty much it: either way, somebody is being identified as annoying, obnoxious, stupid or intolerant, and that’s against the rules.

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