# Van lifer goes missing on cross country trip with fiancee

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 13, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604 "2021-09-13T13:48:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/261 "2021-09-19T22:15:35Z")

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He is almost certainly out of the country by now. Hiding in Mexico, some Caribbean island to the south of Florida maybe.

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/262 "2021-09-19T22:15:57Z")

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Well, shit. The body has been identified as being consistent as hers, pending a further forensic examination.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/263 "2021-09-19T22:17:44Z")

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Person giving the press conference was pretty emotional.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/264 "2021-09-19T22:22:55Z")

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Just as likely et by a gator. Doesn’t strike me as very smart.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/265 "2021-09-19T22:36:46Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> I’m just amazed that there’s so much media attention for a missing attractive young white woman. I guess because it’s never happened before.

Lol.

An OP I wrote _eighteen years ago_:

> [@To the National Media: Lacy Peterson isn't the only person missing in this country...](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/to-the-national-media-lacy-peterson-isnt-the-only-person-missing-in-this-country/149417):
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> For starters, I hope she and her child are OK. I fear not, but there is still hope. But… Why is this a national story? Why? Why? I understand the pregnancy adds to the poignancy of the story, that explains some of it. But it doesn’t explain the three women in Oregon last month, the woman and her daughter (and the daughters friend) who were missing in some California national park a few months ago, Jon Benet, etc. All female, all white, all national stories. Why are missing black people, mis…

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/266 "2021-09-19T22:45:34Z")

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> [@susan](#):
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> Just as likely et by a gator. Doesn’t strike me as very smart.

Or suicide out in the boonies.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/267 "2021-09-19T22:46:20Z")

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I was hoping they’d find Gabby alive. I knew it was unlikely.

No parent should ever have to bury their child. Young people represent our dreams for a better future.

I’d like to send my sincerest sympathy to Gabby Petito’s family.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/268 "2021-09-19T23:20:43Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> Or suicide out in the boonies.

That seems very likely to me.

Drones with thermal cameras would find Brian hiding in that park. You can’t hide your body heat. I think he’s already dead and cold or they’re looking in the entirely wrong place.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/269 "2021-09-20T02:25:49Z")

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Um, I fuckin told you all it was a murder.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/270 "2021-09-20T02:27:52Z")

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Well, aren’t you a genius?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/271 "2021-09-20T02:28:17Z")

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I’m beginning to think that I am, yes

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/272 "2021-09-20T02:35:43Z")

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I bow before your brilliance. Surely it occurred to no one else here or anywhere else in the United States of America that it might have been murder (noting of course that we don’t know that she was murdered).

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/273 "2021-09-20T02:40:52Z")

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Yeah well read the thread - lots of optimistic shit here just like elsewhere. I’m just repeatedly disappointed that supposedly “intelligent” people don’t have more brains than to engage in wild speculation that she might somehow be alive and/or playing a hoax.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/274 "2021-09-20T02:46:37Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Um, I fuckin told you all it was a murder.

1. How do you know it was murder? So far as I know, no cause of death has been determined.

2. Still no credit for being “right” based on insufficient evidence.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/275 "2021-09-20T02:47:08Z")

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Bro, murder. It’s as clear as my piss after drinking nothing but water for three days straight

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/276 "2021-09-20T02:49:05Z")

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I’m just repeatedly disappointed that “supposedly ‘intelligent’ people” don’t have “more brains” than to arrive at conclusions based on insufficient evidence. That’s just not good skepticism.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/277 "2021-09-20T02:49:51Z")

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It’s okay: if a dog is pissing on your leg, you don’t have to wonder if it’s rain.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/278 "2021-09-20T02:50:24Z")

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If I tell you my leg is wet, you don’t have to assume a dog pissed on it.

Or that it’s raining.

Or that I’m in a swimming pool.

Or anything at all.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/279 "2021-09-20T03:06:15Z")

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Well, it’s either a blindingly obvious conclusion which warrants not a single bit of braggadocio for having been made, or it was a brilliant bit of detective work which should be lauded the world over.

What it can’t be is both.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/280 "2021-09-20T03:26:15Z")

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Congratulations for thinking the same thing that 99% of people thought? Your white house invitation is in the mail.

Also, finding a body doesn’t prove murder.

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