# Van lifer goes missing on cross country trip with fiancee **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 13, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604 "2021-09-13T13:48:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/301 "2021-09-20T04:54:41Z")
It looks like a sandal to me. Don’t know whose sandal, but it’s a sandal. ---
**Author:** ![TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thegunismightierthanthepen/32/2981_2.png) [@TheGunIsMightierThanThePen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheGunIsMightierThanThePen)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/302 "2021-09-20T04:55:15Z")
I’m waiting on the autopsy results with bated breath, but refraining from rushing to judgement until then. > [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > one can see the door to the van close at 1:30. Not seeing it myself. Looks to me like the door’s been closed the whole time, and it’s just an optical illusion from the tree in front of it. > [@JohnT](#): > > You can see her sandal behind the van.⠀ I dunno, that’s way too fuzzy and small to be conclusively ruled a sandal, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/303 "2021-09-20T05:02:26Z")
It’s right up there with that poor munchkin caught hanging on camera in the Wizard of Oz. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/304 "2021-09-20T05:03:35Z")
Poor bastard was driven to it by the lollipop guild and no one can convince me otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/305 "2021-09-20T05:07:12Z")
I heard it was that one of the lullaby league dancers spurned his advances. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/306 "2021-09-20T05:14:28Z")
Straw breaking the back, ASL. The fact is, the Lollipop Guild’s insistence on getting 20% of _all_ Oz-related WPA contracts led to them getting none of it. The chief negotiator couldn’t handle his failure, and, with the Lullaby Lust scandal hitting at the same time, that particular munchkin just lost all hope. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/307 "2021-09-20T05:15:05Z")
KSL TV has aerial footage of the crime scene. Police have put up a tarp for privacy and protect evidence. The land is surprisingly flat. You can see the dirt roads. She wasn’t dumped off a cliff. The aerial of the scene is in the first few minutes of the video. > **[Human remains discovered 'consistent' with description of Gabby Petito](https://ksltv.com/472863/human-remains-discovered-consistent-with-description-of-gabby-petito/)** > > Human remains discovered near the area where officials have been searching for Gabrielle “Gabby” Petito are consistent with the description of the missing woman, according to law enforcement officers. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/308 "2021-09-20T05:22:13Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > Grand Teton National Park is home to gray wolves, I’m on record saying she was eaten by wolves. In case that’s what happened. Need to get in the Genius Race. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/309 "2021-09-20T05:51:31Z")
I still think this is a Social Media Stunt. She’s going to jump out of the casket at her funeral yelling “Surprise!” ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/310 "2021-09-20T06:26:14Z")
No, but there’s an argument to be made that the other 10,000 missing people deserve at least a tiny fraction of the attention that she gets or has got. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/311 "2021-09-20T11:16:11Z")
I can see how it looks like a sandal. But in the picture of her wearing it, it’s white (the top part that goes between the toes), whereas the one behind the van looks gray. Yes, it’s in shadow, but the shot of her wearing it isn’t exactly focusing sunlight onto her footwear. I don’t think it’s her sandal. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/312 "2021-09-20T11:38:39Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > Um, I fuckin told you all it was a murder. We are all aware of the likelihood it is murder. Why do you have a problem with people speculating on other possible explanations while still acknowledging the most likely one? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/313 "2021-09-20T12:00:53Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > We didn’t need 282 posts to figure out this was a murder, did we? Seems like a lot of low IQ posting going on. This is a thread shit and insults other posters. If you don’t have anything to say, please stay out of the thread. Not a formal warning. Not a formal instruction to leave the thread. But getting close. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/314 "2021-09-20T12:05:42Z")
It appears they have found her body in a field. I’m thinking that her boyfriend is the one that left it there. Perhaps I’m just being pessimistic. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/315 "2021-09-20T12:08:26Z")
I’d say that’s going with the odds. Although accident or suicide are still on the table. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/316 "2021-09-20T12:35:14Z")
Right. I mean it has the exact same colours as the rocks in the immediate area. Also, the sandal on her foot in the picture is much more bright white. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/317 "2021-09-20T13:33:52Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > Also, the sandal on her foot in the picture is much more bright white. When you are out walking footwear gets dirty and bright white footwear shows this much more distinctly than dark colored footwear–a reason why many of us never wear bright white footwear. ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/318 "2021-09-20T16:10:48Z")
The police searched Brian Laundrie’s parents’ home with a search warrant. > **[Gabby Petito: FBI searches fiancé Brian Laundrie's home](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58629194)** > > Police say Brian Laundrie, who vanished earlier this month, is a "person of interest". Yahoo news reported that the home is considered a crime scene, which confuses me. > **[Police remove Brian Laundrie’s parents and declare home crime scene](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/gabby-petito-police-shut-down-133720396.html)** > > Police and FBI have executed a search warrant at the Laundrie family home, and declared the site a “crime scene” ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/319 "2021-09-20T16:13:38Z")
> [@Kimera757](#): > > Yahoo news reported that the home is considered a crime scene, which confuses me. I think in a very broad sense a crime scene is anywhere that forensic evidence may be gathered. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/320 "2021-09-20T16:22:47Z")
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