# Van lifer goes missing on cross country trip with fiancee **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 13, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604 "2021-09-13T13:48:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 43
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/844 "2021-10-07T05:28:44Z")
This is gonna go like JonBenet Ramsey or that girl missing/killed in Aruba. We’ll never know all. There are so many theories flying around it’s crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/845 "2021-10-07T18:03:45Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > that girl missing/killed in Aruba. I haven’t heard about that one. But it reminds me of all those people who died in Dominica, allegedly from toxic liquor. The FBI said (in 2019) that it wasn’t caused by liquor but deaths in 2021 were considered to be the result of bad liquor. > **[Deaths in Dominican Republic linked to tainted alcohol](https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2021/04/deaths-in-dominican-republic-linked-to-tainted-alcohol/)** > > More than 25 people have died in the Dominican Republic after drinking adulterated alcohol, according to authorities. The Ministry of Public Health ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/846 "2021-10-07T18:06:33Z")
> [@Kimera757](#): > > people who died in Dominica Just FYI, Dominica is a separate island and nation from The Dominican Republic. Your link discusses problems that occurred on The Dominican Republic. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/847 "2021-10-07T18:18:53Z")
> [@Kimera757](#): > > > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > > > that girl missing/killed in Aruba. > > I haven’t heard about that one. But it reminds me of all those people who died in Dominica, allegedly from toxic liquor. The FBI said (in 2019) that it wasn’t caused by liquor but deaths in 2021 were considered to be the result of bad liquor. The reference was probably to [Natalee Holloway](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Natalee_Holloway). ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/848 "2021-10-07T19:38:08Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > We’ll never know all. We may never know exactly what happened, but I do think they’re going to find Brian Laundrie, probably within the next few weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/849 "2021-10-07T20:05:31Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > This is gonna go like JonBenet Ramsey or that girl missing/killed in Aruba. > We’ll never know all. Is there really any doubt in anyone’s mind that Van der Sloot killed her? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/850 "2021-10-07T20:14:49Z")
I don’t think so. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/851 "2021-10-07T21:01:21Z")
> [@Mighty\_Mouse](#): > > Is there really any doubt in anyone’s mind that Van der Sloot killed her? Peter R. De Vries got him to confess. And then he murdered another girl, Stephanie Flores. So now he’s in a Peruvian jail. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/852 "2021-10-07T21:04:32Z")
Yeah. But no body. And he actually got convicted on another murder charge. Bad peeps in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/853 "2021-10-07T21:50:18Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Yeah. But no body. And he actually got convicted on another murder charge. True. The confession wasn’t admitted as evidence, if I recall correctly, because of how it was obtained (with a hidden camera). Plus, indeed, the body has never been found. Dutch government hasn’t been able to convict him. Lucky for us, he’s unfortunately such a psychopath he apparently thought he could get away with it a second time. So far he hasn’t managed to escape, and he’ll be in for another decade or so. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/854 "2021-10-08T00:57:22Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > This is gonna go like JonBenet Ramsey or that girl missing/killed in Aruba. > We’ll never know all. > > There are so many theories flying around it’s crazy. Or the Lori Vallow case. She’s accused of killing her kids, but currently she’s deemed not competent to stand trial. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/855 "2021-10-08T02:43:22Z")
> [@nelliebly](#): > > Brian Laundrie # Brian Laundrie was under surveillance before he disappeared, police say. [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/07/us/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-update-thursday/index.html) Police in North Port, Florida, were surveilling Brian Laundrie, Gabby Petito’s fiancé, as best as they could legally before he vanished, police spokesperson Josh Taylor told CNN’s Randi Kaye on Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/856 "2021-10-08T02:57:11Z")
That is some Top-Notch ‘Surveillance’ there. ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/857 "2021-10-08T03:07:46Z")
Reminiscent of the US Marshals keeping tabs on Lt. Col. Markinson in _A Few Good Men_. “You really gotta hand it to those Federal Marshals… boy, it’s not like he hanged himself by his shoelaces or slashed his wrists with a concealed butter knife. This guy got into full dress uniform, stood in the middle of that room, drew a nickel-plated pistol from his holster, and fired a bullet into his mouth.” ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/858 "2021-10-08T03:20:25Z")
I haven’t seen a case this high profile since Casey Anthony. Protestors were outside her parent’s Florida home for quite awhile. It took several months to find Caylee (a 2 year old) in 2008. Casey’s trial in 2011 was heavily covered. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/859 "2021-10-08T03:21:10Z")
So they lost track of him despite surveillance? ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/860 "2021-10-08T03:27:34Z")
A forensic artist has created a new sketch showing what Brian Laundrie might look like now: > ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/861 "2021-10-08T03:39:01Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > One of the best things about this website is the frequency with which I read things that – I’m absolutely certain – have never before been typed in the history of the English language. I Am That Infinite Monkey! Luckily, I’m also a Hipster that carries around a typewriter. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/862 "2021-10-08T04:01:08Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > Police in North Port, Florida, were surveilling Brian Laundrie, Gabby Petito’s fiancé, as best as they could legally before he vanished, police spokesperson Josh Taylor told CNN’s Randi Kaye on Thursday. I wouldn’t be surprised to see this raised as an argument in favour of increased police surveillance powers. I would rather raise it as an argument in favour of more competent policing. It exists, but it’s expensive. If Laundrie had been considered a sufficient priority to warrant competent surveillance, he’d be in custody today. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/863 "2021-10-08T04:36:11Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > > [@Magiver](#): > > > > Police in North Port, Florida, were surveilling Brian Laundrie, Gabby Petito’s fiancé, as best as they could legally before he vanished, police spokesperson Josh Taylor told CNN’s Randi Kaye on Thursday. > > I wouldn’t be surprised to see this raised as an argument in favour of increased police surveillance powers. I would rather raise it as an argument in favour of more competent policing. It exists, but it’s expensive. If Laundrie had been considered a sufficient priority to warrant competent surveillance, he’d be in custody today. “We have top men on it. Top…men.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604.md?page=42) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604.md?page=44)