# Van lifer goes missing on cross country trip with fiancee **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 13, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604 "2021-09-13T13:48:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1104 "2021-10-21T21:44:55Z")
The 6968 Reisterstown Road address where the Mustang was found is the official address of Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park, so Laundrie left his vehicle near the (main) entrance: [https://www.cityofnorthport.com/Home/Components/FacilityDirectory/FacilityDirectory/58/3341](https://www.cityofnorthport.com/Home/Components/FacilityDirectory/FacilityDirectory/58/3341) ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1105 "2021-10-21T21:50:15Z")
FBI - Denver says dental records confirm the (found) body is that of Brian Laundrie. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1106 "2021-10-21T21:54:42Z")
From the alligator article I linked to earlier: > [@](#): > > How big is Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental park? > > The park is approximately 160 acres which is around the size of 121 football fields. Within the park, there are more than 3.7 miles of trails. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1107 "2021-10-21T21:56:47Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > Maybe you should acquaint yourself better with the case, to be frank. If this were Great Debates or of any import whatsoever, you’re absolutely right; I should spend the hours it would take to garner every bit of information I could. Luckily it’s in MPSIMS. My understanding is that the parent’s attorney told them not to talk to the police, so, for awhile, they didn’t cooperate with the police. If I’m mistaken, if they fully cooperated with police the entire time, I’ll have no problem admitting I was wrong. So, if you have information that they’ve cooperated the entire time, just let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1108 "2021-10-21T21:59:29Z")
As far as we know they gave the police all pertinent information they had. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1109 "2021-10-21T22:02:07Z")
That is calling 9911.You should absolutely do that. But when the police come to your door to “ask a few questions”, then call your lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1110 "2021-10-21T22:03:05Z")
Brian was found. Well, his remains were. > **[Laundrie Family Attorney Confirms Remains Found in Florida Are Brian's](https://www.tmz.com/2021/10/21/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-found-dead-florida-remains/)** > > Gabby Petito's fiance, Brian Laundrie, has been found. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1111 "2021-10-21T22:04:50Z")
On September 22, it was announced that the Mayakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park would be closed to the public until further notice, starting the following day. No reason was given. Maybe if it was for flooding reasons they would have said so. > **[Mayakkahatchee Creek Park closed to the public until further notice](https://www.mysuncoast.com/2021/09/22/mayakkahatchee-creek-park-closed-public-until-further-notice/)** > > North Port advises people to follow North Port Parks & Rev on Facebook, or visit the City of North Port website for alerts on when the park is reopened. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1112 "2021-10-21T22:06:11Z")
Not at all. What I am saying is that even in a garden variety domestic, that the police handle thousands of times daily across the country, wires get crossed, information is processed poorly, and the wrong people get arrested. So, in a serious case that involves you or your kids, don’t just think that running to the police and taking the “moral high ground” is best, because it may get you in a huge pinch and things still turn out wrong. Let the information come out in a way that a guy like a lawyer can get it out. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1113 "2021-10-21T22:07:27Z")
I wonder if the notebook they found will have any useful information; a confession, perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1114 "2021-10-21T22:07:52Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > As far as we know they gave the police all pertinent information they had. They didn’t refuse to talk to the police at any time? I was under the impression that their attorney indicated they had not always spoke to the police when asked. And that Gabby’s parents were told that the Laundrie’s were refusing to cooperate with the investigation. Thanks for clearing that up. ---
**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1115 "2021-10-21T22:10:39Z")
Hopefully now they will release all of the information they have. This will be a mystery that will last for ages. ---
**Author:** ![K2500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f6c823/32.png) [@K2500](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K2500)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1116 "2021-10-21T22:11:25Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > the Laurie’s had a moral (again, not legal) obligation to help uncover the truth. I don’t believe they did. Depending on what you think is moral. I’d say the moral thing to do would be to take reasonable steps to prevent further harm from being caused. I don’t think they are obliged to make amends for harm already caused by someone else. Asking them to “help uncover the truth” would be an immoral request unless you hold the responsible for being the parents of a murderer, you’re asking them to increase their own emotional distress to alleviate the distress of the other parents. Brian killed Gabby and now he’s dead to. I feel equally bad for both their parents. And the whole damn thing sucks from start to finish for everyone involved. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1117 "2021-10-21T22:12:01Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > Not at all. What I am saying is that even in a garden variety domestic, that the police handle thousands of times daily across the country, wires get crossed, information is processed poorly, and the wrong people get arrested. And? You continue to insist that the possibility that the police may make a mistake, or even intentional abuse of ower, means you are under no moral obligation to report a crime or cooperate with police. How does that change when you witness the abuse. Is it just the familial relation? ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1118 "2021-10-21T22:12:34Z")
Dental records confirm the body was Brian Laundrie. > **[Human remains found in Florida reserve confirmed to be Brian Laundrie, FBI says](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/human-remains-found-brian-laundrie-search-are-skeletal-police-say-n1282103)** > > The remains, which were described as skeletal, were confirmed using dental records. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1119 "2021-10-21T22:20:44Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > This will be a mystery that will last for ages. What’s mysterious? He strangled her to death, hid in a park and then somehow died either by mishap or by his own hand. We’re done here. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1120 "2021-10-21T22:21:37Z")
The earliest hits on Twitter for “Myakkahatchee search” come from September 28. Here’s all of them from from that day: > > > > [https://twitter.com/BeachLivin8/status/1439311402267811842](https://twitter.com/BeachLivin8/status/1439311402267811842) > > > ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1121 "2021-10-21T22:22:08Z")
No one said you should not report a crime. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1122 "2021-10-21T22:23:49Z")
We do not know he killed her. He did act guilty, but scared people often do. I would concede it is likely he killed her. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604/1123 "2021-10-21T22:30:33Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > No one said you should not report a crime. If you believe the reason it is moral to refuse to cooperate with a law enforcement investigation is that the investigators might do a bad thing in the future, how does that not include refusing to report a crime? It was UltraVires who used the example of the witnesses to the slapping as somehow being moral because of the potential results of the investigation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/van-lifer-goes-missing-on-cross-country-trip-with-fiancee/950604.md?page=57)