# Vancouver cut off from rest of Canada by road

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 16, 2021, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433 "2021-11-16T05:24:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/41 "2021-11-18T02:30:12Z")

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That is a crap-ton of rain. I hope that you and yours are OK!

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/42 "2021-11-18T02:43:16Z")

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No idea. I just repost photos.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/43 "2021-11-18T03:05:29Z")

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So the rain starts again here tomorrow morning. Any idea on what the next storm will do? Exacerbate, annoy, not much at all?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/44 "2021-11-18T03:11:01Z")

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No idea, but hope you come through okay.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/45 "2021-11-18T03:17:20Z")

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Last I heard it will just be light rain tomorrow, then cloudy and showers for the next few days. Shouldn’t have much of an impact I wouldn’t think (I hope). Things are still pretty wet where I live. Many of the local farms are essentially shallow lakes.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/46 "2021-11-18T03:22:24Z")

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I live just south of Vancouver. The rain was so hard at times that the water completely overwhelmed the gutters and water was just cascading off the roof. Our front walk flooded several times–something that has never happened in the 17 years we have lived here. It was pretty intense. In the past 4 months we have had record breaking (and deadly heat), record breaking rain and flooding, and a very rare tornado…I am feeling very nostalgic for 2019…

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**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/47 "2021-11-18T12:41:06Z")

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For recent rainfall stats for BC, you can go to [BC weather by city](https://weather.gc.ca/forecast/canada/index_e.html?id=BC), select a city, and scroll down to “Historical Weather” at the right. Click on that to see daily totals for the selected city. Abbotsford has some nice big numbers.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/48 "2021-11-18T14:38:29Z")

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> [@Latimera](#):
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> I am feeling very nostalgic for 2019…

On the plus side, hopefully this year won’t be quite so bad in fire season.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/49 "2021-11-18T17:13:31Z")

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**In two days between November 13 and 15…**

“In the Lower Mainland, the YVR Vancouver Airport received 115 mm of precipitation, West Vancouver received 155 mm, and Vancouver Harbour received 133 mm. Abbotsford got 167 mm, Agassiz got 200 mm, and Hope got 230 mm.

Moving towards the interior, Squamish received 198 mm, Whistler received 115 mm, and the Coquihalla Summit got 229 mm.

Here’s a look at preliminary rainfall records that were set on November 14, 2021:

**Abbotsford**

Old record: 48.9 mm set in 1998  
New record: 100.4 mm

(Etc.), similar new records \>2 old records for 48h rainfall, q.v.

> **[Sunday's atmospheric river broke 20 rainfall records across BC | News](https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/atmospheric-river-rainfall-records-bc)**
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> According to Environment Canada, this past weekend's atmospheric river broke close to two dozen rainfall warnings across British Columbia.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/50 "2021-11-18T17:30:11Z")

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And now it’s snowing…

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**Author:** ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/51 "2021-11-19T14:04:45Z")

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More bad news for Abbotsford. An RV rental place is up in smoke.

> **[r/CatastrophicFailure - Massive fire at Fraserway RV’s Rental facility in...](https://old.reddit.com/r/CatastrophicFailure/comments/qx8nsy/massive_fire_at_fraserway_rvs_rental_facility_in/)**
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> 4,645 votes and 256 comments so far on Reddit

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/52 "2021-11-20T04:23:30Z")

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BC government asking motorists to restrict fill-ups to 30 litres to prevent province from running out of gas; restricted traffic on highways to essential services while repairs begin; City of Merritt wants to move a river.

> **[B.C. UPDATE: Gas rationed to 30 litres/visit, travel restricted for 10 days,...](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/gas-rationed-travel-restricted-in-parts-of-b-c-after-storm-washes-out-highways)**
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> Coldwater River nearing village's treatment infrastructure

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/53 "2021-11-20T17:10:02Z")

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The newspaper article I read said they were politely asking people to stick to a 30L (half tank) fill-up without enforcement. Then directly followed this by interviewing two gas station attendants who said they would run out of fuel tomorrow. Canadians are somewhat polite but that juxtaposition made me wonder just how polite…

Three flooded highways were also banned for non-essential trips with a random risk of a $2000 fine. Seems harsh, though I guess you need to dissuade the curious.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/54 "2021-11-20T17:50:42Z")

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FWIW, I fill up twice a week. It takes about 22-24 litres each time, over about 250 miles.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/55 "2021-11-27T22:59:52Z")

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BC is cleaning up, including two guys who rescued a 100 kg sturgeon, carrying it two kilometres, including a couple of portages, to take it from a shallow storm pool back to the deep Fraser River.

> **[Flood-stranded sturgeon pushed, pulled and carried back to the Fraser River |...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-sturgeon-flood-stranded-fraser-river-1.6264477)**
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> Professional angling guides Tyler Buck and Jay Gibson volunteered to move the giant fish two kilometres, returning it to the deep water of the main stem of the Fraser River.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/56 "2021-11-27T23:05:01Z")

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[_A mari usque ad mare_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_mari_usque_ad_mare)

Newfoundland & Labrador took the hit from storms and flooding this week, with Premier Furey having to fly to [Port aux Basques](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel-Port_aux_Basques) on the south-west coast of the island, which has also been cut off by the Trans-Canada Highway been broken by flooding.

> **[N.L. premier flies in to Port aux Basques after record storm severs highway...](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/nl-rain-storm-cleanup-1.6261967)**
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> Newfoundland and Labrador Premier Andrew Furey has arrived in the town of Channel-Port aux Basques to help assess the damage of a massive storm that has blanketed much of southwestern Newfoundland, leaving extensive damage and record rain...

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/57 "2021-11-28T02:34:32Z")

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They can fly cargo in on C-130’s. Similiar to the rescue of Berlin during the 1960’s.

How long will the highways be closed? Removing all that mud will take a lot of heavy construction equipment.

It seems like the bad news just keeps coming.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/58 "2021-11-28T19:30:36Z")

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Given the amount of rain we’re getting right now, I’d expect more closures in the short term. There is an unbelievable amount of water coming down here, and we’ve got at least another several hours of it.

I went into huge debt to get my house in shape for water (re-did the drain tiles, re-roofed, put in paths to the sidewalk) and I’m now very glad I did!

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/59 "2021-11-28T19:47:22Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> I went into huge debt to get my house in shape for water (re-did the drain tiles, re-roofed, put in paths to the sidewalk) and I’m now very glad I did!

I’m glad someone named this house ‘Hillcrest’ (and that we have a new roof).

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**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vancouver-cut-off-from-rest-of-canada-by-road/954433/60 "2021-11-28T21:22:09Z")

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I was told once that there are areas of Canada that are frequently impossible to read except by plane during the winter because of all the roads being blocked by snow.

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