# Vanilla is an ignorant bitch. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 19, 2001, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271 "2001-11-19T20:40:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Krispy\_Original](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ec9cab/32.png) [@Krispy\_Original](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Krispy_Original)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/41 "2001-11-20T06:42:34Z")
Hi **vanilla**! ---
**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/42 "2001-11-20T12:58:47Z")
Lucki, Vanilla’s comments are her choice. If you want to believe that they are ignorant, then so be it. that is your choice, and I am not here to argue that. I do not believe in Vanilla’s philosophy regarding Harry Potter, but the fact that she researched what it was and then made her judgement, is commendable. also the fact that she is not trying to lobby other parents to stop their children reading Harry Potter is commendable also. She has done her research, and made a judgement call based upon that research for her children. That is responsible parenting. also, may I strongly suggest to Vanilla to give the Narnia chronicles a chance. They are some of the greatest childrens literature ever written. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/43 "2001-11-20T14:31:26Z")
1. Hi Krispy!🙂 2. Fenris, never thought you’d defend me. Yes, I will check out C.S.Lewis. I read every day, can’t help myself. 3. As stated long ago, (I beleive it was a thread I started called Harry Potter Antichrist Jr.) I never said any books should be banned. I beleive the Potter books promote an interest in the occult, which I believe is evil. Notice I said I, not everyone. I have already taught my son (only one kid) this, that dabbling in spells, etc. is evil. I am allowed to teach him this. I have never advocated banning any book, as I had already stated. Harry Potter has every right to be in every library in the world. My son never asked to read it; he has seen the promo’s for the movie manny times, never asked to see it. My former church is actually having a series on HArry Potter, why Evil this Sunday. I may not be able to go. If not, I will get a casette tape of it and if anyone is interested, will send it to them to see why us “fundies” think this way. I believe Monty was the one being uncivil. On a former thread, he did call me a bitch, accuses me often of being a “venom-spewer”, as has another Mormon (is that a common phrase by the way? never heard it used by anyone else). I did say I beleived with the statement of faith on Chick’s page, not the man himself. Thank you very much. ---
**Author:** ![SlickUSA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@SlickUSA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlickUSA)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/44 "2001-11-20T14:33:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bob Scene \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Beeblebrox \* > > \*\*Then on Sunday, just to be different, she’s a superkinkamayamayabeeatch \*\* > > Kyle’s mom is actually a “super **King Kamehameha** Beeatch!” > > Kamehameha was a famous king of Hawaii. I only know this because one of my friends used to live in Honolulu on a street named after him. I have no idea what a Super King Kamehameha Beeatch is, but I don’t think **vanilla** is one. \*\* kamehameha is the most powerful energy blast in the dragon ball series. but i guess they both can be used in that context 😃 ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/45 "2001-11-20T14:39:42Z")
When I said I read the Bible, Monty chimes in to say “You read it, but I study it.” Obviously, No proof is provided for this arrogant statement. Pride goeth before a fall. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/46 "2001-11-20T14:43:03Z")
Whoa whoa whoa… Let’s back up for a second, okay? **Lucki Chaarms** started this thread right? But s/he isn’t the same poster as **Lucky Charms** , right? (The one who used to be **MarxBoy** ) Because I thought that crazy socialist had some sense. This new knock-off version strikes me as well…a loon. Am I crazy here or what? ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/47 "2001-11-20T15:03:44Z")
Duck Duck Goose, I dunno…I’ve heard Elmo gets tipsy once in a while…😉 ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/48 "2001-11-20T15:07:33Z")
**vanilla** , I want to say that I really respect the way you remain civil at all times. I’ve never read a post by you that was uncouth or venomous, even in the face of such hateful things as **Lucki Chaarms** was saying. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/49 "2001-11-20T15:28:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Bob Scene \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Beeblebrox \* > > \*\*Then on Sunday, just to be different, she’s a superkinkamayamayabeeatch \*\* > > Kyle’s mom is actually a “super **King Kamehameha** Beeatch!” > > Kamehameha was a famous king of Hawaii. I only know this because one of my friends used to live in Honolulu on a street named after him. I have no idea what a Super King Kamehameha Beeatch is, but I don’t think **vanilla** is one. \*\* Upon further review, I don’t believe that **vanilla** is a bitch, either. She seems civil and rational. Hell, I didn’t even read the Harry Potter thread. I only posted because of the obligitory South Park reference originally posted by **gobear**. **Vanilla** , if you were insulted in any way by me, I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/50 "2001-11-20T15:37:01Z")
I, also, disagree with **LC** ’s OP. **Vanilla** ’s view of fantasy books differs from mine, but unanimity of opinion makes for a dull ol’ world. IMHO, **LC** owes **Vanilla** an apology. And I guess I should apologize to Sheila Broslovski, Kyle’s mom. [sub]but she did start that war with Canada, got Terence and Phillip killed, and let Saddam Hussein and Satan out of Hell[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/51 "2001-11-20T15:46:03Z")
Terrence and Phillip are dead? ::snif:: Gawd. What an ignorant bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/52 "2001-11-20T16:22:26Z")
Hmmm…is **vanilla** a resident of the US? Last time I checked, we have something called “The First Amendment.” You know, freedom of religion and all that. So **vanilla** believes Harry Potter goes against her religion, as is her right. I say give it a rest. She’s made up her mind and it appears that she is not about to change her opinion. My own mom has some strange notions; for instance, once when two of our cats had kittens she wouldn’t let the kittens outside without supervision. She was afraid if one went too close to the road, a stranger would grab it and take it to a lab for unspeakable experiments. ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/53 "2001-11-20T16:25:41Z")
techchick: Well, I seem to be somewhat conservative in matters of religion, but I’ll have you know I am the only non-republican church goer I know IRL, but am also and have been for 30 years a Yippie. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/54 "2001-11-20T16:44:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by vanilla \* > When I said I read the Bible, Monty chimes in to say “You read it, but I study it.” Vanilla: You are a liar. What I said was: > [@](#): > > From your comments on this issue, vanilla, it shows that you read the thing, but that I study it. > > Perhaps you can see the difference. Apparently, it’s not that you can’t see the difference. It’s just that you seem to be selectively functionally illiterate. > [@](#): > > Obviously, No proof is provided for this arrogant statement. Except, of course, for that whole “from your comments on this issue” remark I made in connection with it (that would be the comment I just quoted in this post). > [@](#): > > Pride goeth before a fall. Cute. What fall would that be? ---
**Author:** ![vanilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/f19dbf/32.png) [@vanilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vanilla)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/55 "2001-11-20T16:50:21Z")
Do you get some little thrill harping at me all the time young man? Go study your Bible, and have a nice day. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/56 "2001-11-20T17:12:57Z")
**Monty** and **Vanilla** : You’re supposed to live the Bible, not just study or read it. Luke 6:35 > [@](#): > > But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil Matthew 5:38-39 > [@](#): > > Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: > But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. I Corinthians 13:1-2 > [@](#): > > Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. > And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. Do you really need a Hell-bound sinner like me to point out the lack of charity and goodwill in your arguments are a disgrace to the Body of Christ (or Branch of Ephraim)? Just agree to disagree, you two, and knock off the petty bickering. All you two are called upon to do is from Micah 6:8 > [@](#): > > He hath showed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God. Be nice to each other, pray, and be a good example of God’s grace working in your lives to us heathen. ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/57 "2001-11-20T17:14:05Z")
Heh. You’re a class act, **vanilla**. I completely disagree with your views, but I gotta admire your restraint here. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/58 "2001-11-20T20:01:50Z")
Gobear’s right, of course. But I gotta say: “young man?” That’s a laught. Today’s my 43rd birthday. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/59 "2001-11-20T20:02:11Z")
Gobear’s right, of course. But I gotta say: “young man?” That’s a laugh. Today’s my 43rd birthday. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2001, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271/60 "2001-11-20T20:08:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by vanilla \* > > When I said I read the Bible, Monty chimes in to say “You read it, but I study it.” > > Vanilla: You are a liar. > > What I said was: > > > [@](#): > > > > From your comments on this issue, vanilla, it shows that you read the thing, but that I study it. > > > > Perhaps you can see the difference. > > Apparently, it’s not that you can’t see the difference. It’s just that you seem to be selectively functionally illiterate.\*\* While avoiding the whole **Vanilla/Monty** thing, I gotta say that I don’t see any difference between “(Vanilla) read it, but (Monty) studies it” and “(Vanilla) reads the thing, but (Monty) studies it.” What am I missing? Or are the key words “this issue” implying that it’s not the Bible that’s being talked about at all? If that’s the case, I see Monty’s point. Fenris, confused [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla-is-an-ignorant-bitch/94271.md?page=4)