# Vanilla?!?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 25, 2004, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611 "2004-11-25T07:35:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/1 "2004-11-25T07:35:20Z")

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Of all posters, I can’t think of anyone who was more benign or conscientious of the rules. And yet, suddenly, tonight, she’s banned?

Whiskey Tango Helicopter Foxtrot?

If nothing else, can someone point me to her bannable offense?

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/2 "2004-11-25T07:38:12Z")

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What the fuck? I’m confused too. I liked her.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/3 "2004-11-25T07:41:26Z")

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Here’s hoping she gets more responsible in life.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/4 "2004-11-25T07:41:57Z")

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My bet would be that it had something to do with [pitting a member of her congregation](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=288107) and e-mailing her pastor a link to the thread.

Ah, well.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/5 "2004-11-25T07:42:24Z")

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“WTHF”?

Wha?

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/6 "2004-11-25T07:44:57Z")

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“What the Holy Fuck”

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/7 "2004-11-25T07:47:30Z")

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[Here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5537444&postcount=57).

She’s been suspended for at least a month.

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Silver\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Fire)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/8 "2004-11-25T07:53:12Z")

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> [@Larry Mudd](#):
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> “What the Holy Fuck”

Oh. Well that’s just…

Okay, thanks.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/9 "2004-11-25T07:57:12Z")

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I tried. I’ll try again.

vanilla: if you love Christ, please turn the other cheek.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/10 "2004-11-25T08:03:03Z")

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To pastorjc:

You will be well-served to stick around. Your rhetorical skills could use a little polish. 😉

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/11 "2004-11-25T08:10:56Z")

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Wow I’ve almost always been behind any banning/suspension the mods have handed out but this is nuts (I’m a real obey the rules or take the punishment type of guy on here for some reason).

I’ve seen dopers call out other dopers over real life stuff and all I’ve ever seen is a warning. I think a month long suspension with a threatened banning is way too far.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/12 "2004-11-25T08:11:47Z")

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Dayum.

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**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/13 "2004-11-25T08:13:22Z")

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Well, this might be a first. I saw the original thread, thought its closing was justified; but I don’t know I’ve even seen a closed thread re-opened by an admin just to initiate a banning.

The whole thing was ugly; dear **vanilla** should have refrained from either discussing these matters on the boards, or linking to outsiders, one or the other. I felt sorry for pastorjc, and I’m so glad I missed the thread in real-time and didn’t have the temptation to participate in it.

**Vanilla** , come back in a month, dear, but don’t trash your brethren here! And if you must do so, do so anonymously. That thread was a big mistake, not that we all haven’t made big mistakes.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/14 "2004-11-25T08:14:04Z")

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Actually, it’s a good thing. We can really raise the tone of this board, if only we can get rid of rabble-rousers and trolls like **vanilla**.

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**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/15 "2004-11-25T08:18:42Z")

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For the first time in my life, I’m actually praying.

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/16 "2004-11-25T08:25:22Z")

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> [@TeaElle](#):
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> Whiskey Tango Helicopter Foxtrot?

It’s supposed to be “Hotel.”

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/17 "2004-11-25T08:26:05Z")

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I have to agree with **TubaDiva**. It was a valid rant, but to link to it in an e-mail and have an unsespecting person you have a problem with come here to get hammered, I just don’t see the point. Why not send the link to the people giving her a ride? We could have piled on them as well…

I’d also like to ask people that lump “Christians” together in a group as fundies to recognize that Baptists and Catholics are entirely different animals. Specify the sect you like to bash before lumping us all together.

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**Author:** ![Freejooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba8739/32.png) [@Freejooky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freejooky)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/18 "2004-11-25T08:29:55Z")

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This is just the latest example of the SDMB having too many chiefs and not enough indians. There’s no conistency between different mods’ behavior, and bannings like this are way too subjective.

I think it’s important to point out that the mod’s reason for banning Vanilla is entirely incorrect and build around misreading the situation. Vanilla did not send the thread to the “Pastor JC” that replied in order to “lure” him to the thread for an “ass-kicking”, as the mod posited. Rather, Vanilla sent the thread to a different member of the congregation, who took it upon themselves to send it to the pastor who elected to come to the thread and respond.

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**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/19 "2004-11-25T08:31:15Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> I have to agree with **TubaDiva**. It was a valid rant, but to link to it in an e-mail and have an unsespecting person you have a problem with come here to get hammered, I just don’t see the point. Why not send the link to the people giving her a ride? We could have piled on them as well…

I’d just like to clarify that I do agree that a stern warning or maybe even a week suspension would have been warranted. But a month with a potential banning? Seems a little much for the offense especially to a poster that’s (as far as I know) probably never been warned for anything before.

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**Author:** ![Freejooky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ba8739/32.png) [@Freejooky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freejooky)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2004, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanilla/276611/20 "2004-11-25T08:33:23Z")

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Again, from the original thread -

“I am “Vanilla’s”/Rose’s pastor. I got the link to this bulletin board from an email she sent to the elder in question and joined the board so I could respond…”

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