# Vanished 10/2 \[spoilers\]
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 3, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063 "2006-10-03T02:06:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 18
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/1 "2006-10-03T02:06:48Z")
What the FUCK just happened?
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Why would they kill off and replace their series star after half a season? Is it a ratings thing? It pisses me off, frankly…I liked the guy as Wyatt Earp in Deadwood and he was the main reason I watched the show.
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### Author:  [@Aunt\_Flow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aunt_Flow)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/2 "2006-10-03T04:58:12Z")
Seriously! He was the only reason I decided to start watching it since he’s HOT and did a damn fine job in Queer as Folk. He better live some how. \>\< This is so STUPID.
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/3 "2006-10-03T10:56:08Z")
> [@Aunt Flow](#):
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> Seriously! He was the only reason I decided to start watching it since he’s HOT and did a damn fine job in Queer as Folk. He better live some how. \>\< This is so STUPID.
My wife was saying “he might be alive and in the hospital” but shit, even if he survived, he was shot four times in the chest, he won’t be working on this case or anything else for months, so either way he’s off the show and that guy who played in Invasion is the new lead.
This smacks of desperation to me.
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/4 "2006-10-03T13:07:02Z")
Why not plan the series to lose the lead investigator a few episodes in? FBI work is dangerous, especially when you’re up against an ancient international conspiracy. Killing off the lead (if he is in fact dead) is a bold move.
Plus, Eddie Cibrian is a jillion times hotter than Gale Harold could ever hope to be.
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/5 "2006-10-03T13:10:25Z")
> [@Otto](#):
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> Why not plan the series to lose the lead investigator a few episodes in? FBI work is dangerous, especially when you’re up against an ancient international conspiracy. Killing off the lead (if he is in fact dead) is a bold move.
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> Plus, Eddie Cibrian is a jillion times hotter than Gale Harold could ever hope to be.
Not in my opinion. I didn’t care for him on Invasion and I don’t care for him here. The other guy is a much more interesting actor.
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/6 "2006-10-03T13:12:48Z")
> [@Otto](#):
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> Why not plan the series to lose the lead investigator a few episodes in? FBI work is dangerous,.
Actually, it isn’t nearly as dangerous as being a local cop. Very very few FBI agents are killed in the line of duty.
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/7 "2006-10-03T14:18:47Z")
> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Not in my opinion. I didn’t care for him on Invasion and I don’t care for him here. The other guy is a much more interesting actor.
Gale Harold is an actor? I thought he was a ventriloquist’s dummy.
Seriously, I was never able to figure out how he managed to con the QAF producers into casting him as the Hottest Man Alive. he wasn’t even the hottest one in the cast, especially after Robert Gant joined up. Not that he’s not attractive but he’s not all that and he’s not that interesting of an actor in anything I’ve seen him in. Not like Cibrian is Larry Olivier but at least his face moves when he speaks.
> [@RikWriter](#):
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> Actually, it isn’t nearly as dangerous as being a local cop. Very very few FBI agents are killed in the line of duty.
God, fine, whatever, _TV FBI work_ is dangerous.
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### Author:  [@Aunt\_Flow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aunt_Flow)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/8 "2006-10-03T16:18:44Z")
> [@Otto](#):
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> Seriously, I was never able to figure out how he managed to con the QAF producers into casting him as the Hottest Man Alive. he wasn’t even the hottest one in the cast, especially after Robert Gant joined up. Not that he’s not attractive but he’s not all that and he’s not that interesting of an actor in anything I’ve seen him in. Not like Cibrian is Larry Olivier but at least his face moves when he speaks.
Are you kidding? I despised Gant’s character. Hell, I fast forwarded through most of his stuff. I found his character to be extrememly dull. And he was not more attractive than Harold. But now we’re just delving into the world of personal preferences, where everyone’s ‘right’ lol
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/9 "2006-10-03T17:20:25Z")
> [@Otto](#):
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> Gale Harold is an actor? I thought he was a ventriloquist’s dummy.
“Thought” may be too generous a word for whatever processes led to that comment.
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### Author:  [@Plynck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plynck)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/10 "2006-10-03T19:31:14Z")
It definitely was a WTF moment. My first thought was bullet-proof vest, but when they pulled back and showed the pool of blood, that shot that theory.
I’d been wondering whether to write this one off. I was starting to get it mixed up with “Kidnapped”, and the Masonic references were just a bit too much. And you _know_ that there will be reference to Knights Templar eventually. I mean, “The X-Files” was a terrific paranoid conspiracy show, but that was ten years ago.
Still, if they were willing to make him the central figure only to kill him off, I figure they have a few more surprises up their sleeves. I’ll stay with it for awhile.
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/11 "2006-10-03T19:53:46Z")
> [@RikWriter](#):
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> “Thought” may be too generous a word for whatever processes led to that comment.
You’re right, I shouldn’t have mistaken him for a dummy because it was usually his hand up someone else’s ass on QAF. But I still say Justin came away with a butt full of splinters. Harold has shown more emotion in five episodes of Vanished than he did in five seasons of QAF.
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/12 "2006-10-03T20:28:08Z")
> [@Plynck](#):
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> Still, if they were willing to make him the central figure only to kill him off, I figure they have a few more surprises up their sleeves. I’ll stay with it for awhile.
See, I have my doubts that this was the plan all along. This seems to me more of a “Oh God, the ratings aren’t good, we have to CHANGE something” moment.
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### Author:  [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/13 "2006-10-05T03:54:18Z")
> [@Aunt Flow](#):
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> Are you kidding? I despised Gant’s character. Hell, I fast forwarded through most of his stuff. I found his character to be extrememly dull. And he was not more attractive than Harold. But now we’re just delving into the world of personal preferences, where everyone’s ‘right’ lol
I’m with you. The brilliance of Gale is that when I first started watching QAF, I was like “why is everyone ga-ga over this Brian guy? He’s not that hot?” But then after like… two episodes… he WAS the hottest guy on the show. Because he PLAYED it that well. I think he’s a great actor. I’m sorry if some people can’t see the subtlety of his performances, but I love the guy. Gant’s character was physically repulsive to me and more boring than watching paint dry. I HATED seeing love scenes with him, and would fastforward through them, whereas I rewound and rewatched the ones with Gale.
Now for the topic of the thread… Come on guys, did NO ONE watch the previews for next episode? They show him in the hospital. He’s not dead.
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2006, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/14 "2006-10-05T05:48:46Z")
> [@OpalCat](#):
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> I’m sorry if some people can’t see the subtlety of his performances, but I love the guy.
Yeah, that _must_ be it. Anyone who disagrees is thick.
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### Author:  [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2006, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/15 "2006-10-08T22:54:09Z")
Why is everyone talking about the hotness of the actor and not about the plot points?
I get that it’s a 24 clone. But as they go, at least it’s entertaining and keeps my interest.
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### Author:  [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2006, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/16 "2006-10-08T23:11:20Z")
[QUOTE=Charlie Tan]
Why is everyone talking about the hotness of the actor and not about the plot points?
I get that it’s a 24 clone. But as they go, at least it’s entertaining and keeps my interest.
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I don’t care how “hot” he is, as I don’t swing that way, but I do think he’s a good actor. I enjoyed his performance and I disliked Eddie Cibrian’s turn as the park ranger in Invasion.
BTW, how is it a spoiler when the show aired almost a week ago?
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### Author:  [@Charlie\_Tan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Tan)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2006, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/17 "2006-10-08T23:18:34Z")
Nah, it’s not a spoiler, but I finally caught up and thaought there was gonna be a lot of talk about plot points and I didn’t find any.
I loved Invasion, but Cibrian was the weakest link, IMO.
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### Author:  [@Aunt\_Flow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aunt_Flow)
#### Post date: [October 9, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanished-10-2-spoilers/375063/18 "2006-10-09T20:08:58Z")
[QUOTE=OpalCat]
Now for the topic of the thread… Come on guys, did NO ONE watch the previews for next episode? They show him in the hospital. He’s not dead.
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I just assumed it was him in the morgue lol