# Vanity Rant

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 14, 2002, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641 "2002-12-14T00:01:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/41 "2002-12-14T20:25:59Z")

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Prototypical bar star:

- Usually 1st or 2nd year university
- Timetable includes PSY101, SOC100, PHI101, ENG110, and MAT091
- Ashen (ok, or “ashy”) bleached hair
- Caked on makeup
- Surrounded by identical friends at all times
- Wears fuck-me boots to class
- Talks too loud and is commonly seen holding a cigarette and a rum and coke in the same hand

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/42 "2002-12-14T20:28:50Z")

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I don’t know if I’m ugly or not. That wasn’t the point of the rant. The point of the rant was that I couldn’t understand how people that are close to me could be so off about my physical traits (for the record, none of them called me ugly). It might sound vain to you, but it certainly grates on ones nerves after a while. You’re certainly proving the kind of person you are with your remarks, **Chanticleer**. :rolleyes: If this wasn’t my thread, I would have walked away by now.

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/43 "2002-12-14T20:32:20Z")

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:eek: Oh, no **KarmaComa** , that’s not me at all.

I’m more:

- 1st year university
- Timetable includes PSY101, SOC100, CHEM101, HIST110, and GEN091
- Ashen (ok, or “ashy”) bleached hair
- Natural beige eyeshadow, mascara, clear lip gloss
- Surrounded by a few close friends (who vary from each other greatly), or alone
- Wears sneakers to class
- Talks quietly and doesn’t touch alcohol or cigarettes

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**Author:** ![Chanticleer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/65b543/32.png) [@Chanticleer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chanticleer)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/44 "2002-12-14T20:34:42Z")

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Your friends think you are fat…you think not  
Your friends say you have brown hair …you say ashy  
Your friends say you have brown eyes…you say they are green…  
Your friends say you are pale…you say you are as brown

What is wrong here…is it me?

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/45 "2002-12-14T20:41:30Z")

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Well, let me note that not all of my friends think this way. Only a few do, and the rest are just as confused as I am. This rant was directed to the few that do. I didn’t mean to seem stuck on myself, but this has been something that’s been bothering me for a while. If I had known that I would be called a bar star and an ugly narcissist, I don’t think I would have even posted.

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/46 "2002-12-14T20:47:58Z")

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In my experience, within a one large group of friends, sometimes there are a couple of cliques. One clique finds one person in the other clique to single out and tear apart to make themselves feel better. A friend and I did this very thing to someone (something I’m not proud of, even 20 years later, and will go to my grave feeling bad about), but it was in 7th grade–not 1st year of college. Yikes. These people are immature.

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/47 "2002-12-14T21:15:06Z")

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That could very well be it. The friends who do it aren’t really friends with one another though…they just share me as a common friend, and we were always very close. That’s part of the reason it’s so hard for me to understand.

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**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2002, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/48 "2002-12-14T21:20:26Z")

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Well, like I said in a previous post, my best friend in high school and I grew apart very quickly when we went to the same college. I mean, in a matter of a month or two, we had nothing in common anymore.

College can change people’s perceptions rather quickly. I am not a therapist, but maybe they are now feeling like small fish in a big pond and are doing this to somehow feel better about themselves. If that’s the case, drop these friends fast. You don’t need people like that in your life.

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**Author:** ![Tanaqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3bc359/32.png) [@Tanaqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanaqui)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/49 "2002-12-15T02:23:30Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Vix…the more you describe yourslef the uglier you do sound.  
> Are you sure you aren’t really ugly?

What the fuck is your problem, asshole? Do you have some sort of history with this person I’m missing?

Maybe your ability to use correct grammar and spelling made you top of the dungheap at whatever high-school-drop-out message board you crawled out from, but things are different here.

We only have one rule: don’t be a jerk. Why don’t you try following it?

The same applies to your little buddy KarmaComa. Jesus.

Grow up before you come to show off in the big kids playground. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/50 "2002-12-15T02:41:29Z")

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**Tanaqui** , I don’t know either of them. The most I can figure is that they decided that I’m a conceited whore for posting what I did. Thanks for your post, though. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SpasticKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@SpasticKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpasticKitty)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/51 "2002-12-15T04:33:22Z")

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Personally, I think tanning beds are disgusting. Have fun being a wrinkled prune when you’re 40…:rolleyes:

SpasticKitty (natural pale chick, and proud of it!)

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/52 "2002-12-15T05:55:09Z")

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What an _interesting_ thread…:rolleyes:

**Vixenation** , why the hell do you give a monkeys pistle about how your ‘friends’ perceive you? You seem to be extremely confident in your self-appraisal, so why the angst about what others think?

So, they still refer to you as a brunette? Hey, I still classify one of my kids as a blonde, even though the last time he had fair hair was when he was 3…I have to keep reminding myself that he has darkened up with age…he’s sixteen now!!

And so what that they don’t know the colour of your eyes…shit, I wouldn’t have a clue about the colour of my friends’ eyes. It’s only the one’s that I look into deeply 😃 that matter to me…and even then I’ve been known to not take any notice.

The one’s calling you fat are probably just trying to make themselves feel better about their own weight issues, and as far as pale skin is concerned, take **SpasticKitty’s** advice and keep far away from solariums…unless you want to end up scarred from carcinoma removals later in your life.

Have you considered the notion that they might be revving you up because you get so incensed by their errors? Maybe if you were a little less self-absorbed, they might desist with poking fun at ya’!!

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/53 "2002-12-15T08:23:28Z")

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Well this is the bitchyest thread I’ve read in a while…

I really have nothing to say - I’m just surprised that people are being so nasty.

Oh well - whatever.

**Vixenation** , I’m sure you look fine. Perhaps your friends are too busy studying to notice your latest appearance change. I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/54 "2002-12-15T08:24:42Z")

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Oh - and by the way - what the heck is wrong with being a pale, brown-eyed, brunette who’s a little on the voluptuous side, anyhow?

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/55 "2002-12-15T14:06:47Z")

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There’s nothing at all wrong with being voluptuous, fair-skinned, brunette, or brown eyed. But when people continually think I am, it gets on my nerves. I would feel the same way if people kept calling me, say, a guy. I’m just a little hurt that people I’ve known for a while now keep getting obvious things about me wrong. I didn’t think I was being superficial.

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**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/56 "2002-12-15T18:44:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _originally posted by PhiloVance_  
> A Newbie bitchslappin’ session!

Excuse me while I clean the spew of coffee off my monitor.

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**Author:** ![KarmaComa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e36b37/32.png) [@KarmaComa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarmaComa)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/57 "2002-12-15T19:12:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tanaqui \*  
> \*\*We only have one rule: don’t be a jerk. Why don’t you try following it?
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> The same applies to your little buddy KarmaComa. Jesus.
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> Grow up before you come to show off in the big kids playground. ☹ \*\*

Why does everyone keep saying that I’m little? I’m 6’1" with a great build, lustrous chestnut hair, and eyes that could make you melt like butter. If one more person calls me little, I’m just going to scream! :rolleyes:

Welcome to the pit, jackass. :smack:

I have one rule in the pit. Don’t be a smug, condescending ass unless you’re going to back yourself up with some substance.

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/58 "2002-12-15T22:01:22Z")

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I’m feeling very “who gives a fuck?”… anyone care to join me?

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**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/59 "2002-12-15T22:02:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Vixenation \*  
> \*\* I didn’t think I was being superficial. \*\*

Then you don’t know the meaning of “superficial”.

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**Author:** ![Vixenation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/278dde/32.png) [@Vixenation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vixenation)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2002, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-rant/142641/60 "2002-12-15T22:09:04Z")

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**Stoid** , if you don’t give a fuck, then don’t fucking comment. The only thing I’m mad about is my friend’s failure to see the obvious. It’s comparable (to me) to my wearing a blue shirt, and my friends saying it’s green. Or my being Asian, and my friends calling me African. If getting slightly ticked off because my friends keep saying I’m one thing when I am not is being superficial, then I’m a stuck-up, snotty homecoming queen grade bitch. Try having your friends call you things you are very obviously not, physical trait or something else. It’s annoying and even more so when they don’t stop, even though everyone else who sees them do it thinks they’re complete assholes.

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