# Vanity, thy name is SolGrundy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 26, 2005, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733 "2005-01-26T08:05:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/41 "2005-01-26T23:55:36Z")

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> [@calm kiwi](#):
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> Lovely either way.
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> Mind you I always thought you were lovely, without having seen you.

Awww, you people are sweet, even the one who said I look like the lamest of the X-men. I really just intended this as a mundane ‘n’ pointless “hey look I shaved” thread, not trolling for compliments. Because that would be just about as lame as replying to the thread just to bump it back to the top. Which of course I’d never do.

(But seriously, thanks for saying so. I can’t tell if I’m blushing or it’s just razor burn.)

> [@psycat90](#):
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> Now you just need a little eyebrow shaping, and you’ll be quite dapper. 😉

Haha, that’s awesome! I really was wondering how long it would take someone to mention the unibrow. I’ve gotten more attention from women in the six-odd months since I’ve been out, than I did from over a decade in the closet. And it’s always in the form of “if I could… just… tweeze… a little…”

At least nobody’s mentioned the [other guy from They Might Be Giants](http://www.kittenpants.org/27_ab/flansy2.asp) yet.

> [@swampbear](#):
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> Men with goatees make me weak in the knees.

You’re preaching to the choir, brother! Speaking of which:

> [@Miller](#):
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> Sol, you could have asked for a consult, dammit.

Hey, check your timestamps, Jack! I _did_ send out an e-mail warning just prior; you had a good five minutes to voice an objection. Besides, it was a pathetic sight, me driving home from work last night, scratching and screaming “get it off! get it off!”\*

“It’s better to ask forgiveness than permission.”  
– anonymous philosopher, who probably never was in a relationship more than two weeks, tops

\*Yeah, Friday around seven sounds good.

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2005, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/42 "2005-01-26T23:57:40Z")

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Mmm, definitely with.

(s **swampbear** : “ **A**  **C** ertain **B** urly **G** uy” or “ **A**  **C** ertain **B** urly **G** entleman”?)

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**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/43 "2005-01-27T00:24:26Z")

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I think you look better without the goatee.

But, I have an aversion to men with heavy facial hair, so my opinion may be biased.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/44 "2005-01-27T01:09:07Z")

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Another vote for with, although I too cannot see a damned thing on the “after” picture…too dark, or is it my monitor?

I have always thought guys look better with some sort of facial hair - even if only a 5 o’clock shadow. Clean shaven looks too…I donno…like Michael Jackson bait. Never been into “boy” or “boy-ish” look.

Give me a Sam Elliot anytime.

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/45 "2005-01-27T02:14:09Z")

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Meant to add: If you’re going to go for the clean shaven look, you need earrings.

(And dammit… I had to go google Sam Elliot.)

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**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/46 "2005-01-27T02:45:28Z")

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Very nice, either way. The second picture is dark–I actually went to the trouble of saving it and lightening it, just so I could judge this thing.

I like the “with” picture better, but I wonder if that’s because it’s a great smile…

Either way, officially: WOO!

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/47 "2005-01-27T03:47:56Z")

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I have to agree, that is one hell of a smile.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/48 "2005-01-27T04:29:29Z")

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Oh, and if I may, for the goatee fans out there, I’m sporting a goatee and am quite single.

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/49 "2005-01-27T09:43:22Z")

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People, please. Stop already. I’m getting embarrassed. And to show just how embarrassed I am at all the ego-stroking, I lightened that [after picture](http://www.spectrecollie.com/effluvia/SmugEvilTwin.jpg) that people were complaining about, and once again bumped the thread to the top. Don’t make me do something drastic to force you people to stop paying attention to me.

So by my reckoning, the tally is with: 9, without: 11, either: 4, abstaining: 50,750.

And the one other Doper who actually has any say in the matter, says he can’t decide one way or the other. Which is just so _very typical_ of _his kind_.

> [@chaoticdonkey](#):
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> Meant to add: If you’re going to go for the clean shaven look, you need earrings.
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> (And dammit… I had to go google Sam Elliot.)

Count me in as somebody who’d like to google the _hell_ out of Sam Elliot. And as for the earrings, that boat has sailed, I’m afraid. I tried wearing one for about a week in college, but I took it out because it made me look “too gay” (which I _wasn’t_, you understand). I’m not a big fan of wearing jewelry, anyway, and if I tried at this point it’d look like I was either having a premature mid-life crisis or an even more difficult coming-out process. Like that announcer guy on “The Price is Right” who came out and suddenly started dressing like Rip Taylor.

> [@Otto](#):
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> I propose that we clone him, have one of them grow the goatee back and make a sammich.

It took me all day, but I just now got that. I was wondering why you’d want a clone of me to make you a sandwich. And by the way: get your own thread! This one’s all about _me_. (And in the new thread, put up a picture or two. I’m still allowed to _look_).

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**Author:** ![calm\_kiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9fc348/32.png) [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/50 "2005-01-27T10:47:36Z")

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Can you please graft your cuteness, kindness and sheer bloody goodness of both personality and face on to some straight Kiwi bloke?

Nah?

No I don’t believe in magic either. 😃 (I kinda liked the facial fluff… but no one of any sex or oreintation is going to kick you out 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/51 "2005-01-27T13:05:26Z")

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**Sol** even though you are indeed a handsome devil, I still like the goatee better. So, that means grow it back.

**gobear** one of the benefits of being in my harem is that it will be very much focused on _oral_ hygiene. 😉 All one need do to apply is just show up and get nekkid. So, you and **Otto** gonna carpool?

**silenus** shaved head and goatee? \<swoon\> I know you’re straight and all that but eye candy is always good.

**chaoticdonkey** ACBG is **A**  **C** ertain **B** urly **G** entleman. He’s a gentleman in public and an animal when he needs to be. 😉

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**Author:** ![chaoticbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f07891/32.png) [@chaoticbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chaoticbear)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/52 "2005-01-27T17:03:25Z")

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And what’s the deal with these threads where people describe themselves as… well, **Sampiro** suggested that he looks like Burl Ives, and **SolGrundy** he had an " ugly (but lovable) mug", and then I look at the pictures and find the men behind them amazingly cute?

It’s like the penis threads where the OP says “I don’t know what to do. My penis is so small. 11 inches is smaller than a ruler :(”

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/53 "2005-01-27T17:11:15Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> _gasp_ Voyeur! 😉
> 
> Where’s **Ink a dink a dink** when you need her? She’s an admitted voyeur, too. Bet she loves that status though: SDMB Voyeur.

Aw, _I_ wanted to be the SDMB Voyeur! _mope_ ☹

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/54 "2005-01-27T17:18:20Z")

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> [@chaoticdonkey](#):
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> And what’s the deal with these threads where people describe themselves as… well, **Sampiro** suggested that he looks like Burl Ives, and **SolGrundy** he had an " ugly (but lovable) mug", and then I look at the pictures and find the men behind them amazingly cute?
> 
> It’s like the penis threads where the OP says “I don’t know what to do. My penis is so small. 11 inches is smaller than a ruler :(”

I don’t get the self-deprecation from the gay Dopers here. Everyone is attractive to somebody else. I don’t care if you’re Quasimodo; somewhere out there, there’s some guy who will look at your profile and say, “Damn, that hump on your back is rockin’! And you got your own place in Paris? Oh, I got to get me some of that!”

In any event, the gay guys here have been shown that they are far from unattractive; in fact, we can safely say that **Sol Grundy** and **Sampiro** have been told they are damn well handsome from heteros and homos, men and women.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/55 "2005-01-27T17:31:45Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> Aw, _I_ wanted to be the SDMB Voyeur! _mope_ ☹

I’m sure there’s plenty of room on the watching couch. Besides, then you two have company.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/56 "2005-01-27T17:36:24Z")

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…Ooo. Good _point_. _scampers happily off to couch_

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**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/57 "2005-01-27T18:26:51Z")

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> [@gobear](#):
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> Everyone is attractive to somebody else. I don’t care if you’re Quasimodo; somewhere out there, there’s some guy who will look at your profile and say, “Damn, that hump on your back is rockin’! And you got your own place in Paris? Oh, I got to get me some of that!”

Exactly the philosophy behind this [self-affirming T-shirt](http://www.nonzerochance.com/index.php?p=buypage&design=fetish&style=kshirt).

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/58 "2005-01-27T18:32:02Z")

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> [@Kythereia](#):
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> …Ooo. Good _point_. _scampers happily off to couch_

Besides, I get the idea Ink a dink a dink is cute.

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/59 "2005-01-27T18:45:46Z")

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> [@SolGrundy](#):
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> Exactly the philosophy behind this [self-affirming T-shirt](http://www.nonzerochance.com/index.php?p=buypage&design=fetish&style=kshirt).

I want, nay, **need** this tshirt. Day-umn that’s funny!

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2005, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vanity-thy-name-is-solgrundy/286733/60 "2005-01-28T06:52:14Z")

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I vote for the goatee. But my guy and I both have goatees, so I may be a bit prejudiced.

And don’t change your eyebrows. What’s with all these anti-hair people anyway?

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