# VCO3's real problem with his neighbors: a shocking exposé! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 28, 2007, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306 "2007-10-28T03:17:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/61 "2007-10-28T21:59:49Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > Fetus, in all fairness (lord knows why) to VCO3, he never mentioned dogs – only a pigeon coop.\* And then he linked to a picture of a “pigeon coop” used to train dogs. Also, I’m not going to Pit you about it, but please don’t capitalize my username. Danke. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/62 "2007-10-28T22:07:26Z")
Let’s face it… **VCO3’s** schtick is all about categorizing, usually negatively, people he can’t relate to for one reason or another. Managment. Snooty customers. “Rich” people. Blacks. Jews. The particular thread in question perhaps can be excused…I don’t know where he lives, but I guess it’s not beyond reasonable doubt that these guys in his building are not savory types. Not sure why it’s relevant that they are BLACK and unsavory, but whatever. The weird thing is that the guy lives in a major metropolitan area. I have the impression that he likes that kind of atmosphere, but for the life of me I can’t figure out why…seems to me, he’d be much better off in some little town somewhere where they are all white working stiffs like himself, and he never has to encounter anyone who might be different from him. ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/63 "2007-10-28T22:16:25Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] The weird thing is that the guy lives in a major metropolitan area. I have the impression that he likes that kind of atmosphere, but for the life of me I can’t figure out why…seems to me, he’d be much better off in some little town somewhere where they are all white working stiffs like himself, and he never has to encounter anyone who might be different from him. [/QUOTE] We eat people like him for breakfast. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/64 "2007-10-28T22:27:54Z")
OT but just out of curiosity… [QUOTE=fetus] Also, I’m not going to Pit you about it, but please don’t capitalize my username. Danke. [/QUOTE] Even when it starts a sentence? ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/65 "2007-10-28T22:33:40Z")
[QUOTE=choie] OT but just out of curiosity… Even when it starts a sentence? [/QUOTE] That’s the idea, yes. You capitalize **Sarahfeena** anywhere in a sentence (to use a less-than-random example), so don’t capitalize mine no matter where it is. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/66 "2007-10-28T22:51:11Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] That’s the idea, yes. You capitalize **Sarahfeena** anywhere in a sentence (to use a less-than-random example), so don’t capitalize mine no matter where it is. [/QUOTE] Interesting, thanks for the response! I would have thought the sentence capitalization rule superceded message board username capitalization. (Or at least, it’s so ingrained in me to capitalize things that way, so if 'twere me I’d probably have made that choice too, though certainly without intending to offend.) /OT ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/67 "2007-10-28T22:52:37Z")
By way of balance, I’d like to cordially invite everyone here to capitalize my name any way you want. **Vinyl Turnip** , **VINYL TURNIP** , **vInYL tUrNiP** : all perfectly fine. Or abbreviate (e.g., **VT** , **VeeTee** ). You may also be as creative with the spelling as you like ( **Vaijnell Ternyp** ) or even contemptuously satirical ( **Urinal Tuneup** , **Vaginal Turdlip** ). Anything is approved, as long as I understand to whom you refer. (For example, calling me \*\*“fetus” \*\* would be _completely unacceptable_.) ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/68 "2007-10-28T22:59:11Z")
[QUOTE=Vinyl Turnip] By way of balance, I’d like to cordially invite everyone here to capitalize my name any way you want. **Vinyl Turnip** , **VINYL TURNIP** , **vInYL tUrNiP** : all perfectly fine. Or abbreviate (e.g., **VT** , **VeeTee** ). You may also be as creative with the spelling as you like ( **Vaijnell Ternyp** ) or even contemptuously satirical ( **Urinal Tuneup** , **Vaginal Turdlip** ). Anything is approved, as long as I understand to whom you refer. (For example, calling me \*\*“fetus” \*\* would be _completely unacceptable_.) [/QUOTE] I bet you’re not a redhead, are you? ---
**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/69 "2007-10-28T22:59:14Z")
[QUOTE=EJsGirl] Ooh, a scary black people rant! **VCO3** is a moron. I remember taking the subway train out to the Bronx to take my kids to the zoo once- they were pretty small and cranky. We were sharing a car with some pretty tough-looking young men of several ethnic & racial groups. When my kids were fussy, a couple of the harder-looking cats went out of their way to make my kids laugh. They gave me a “hey, we’re all parents, let’s stick together” vibe. My older boy (4, IIRC) thought the huge gold chain with the 3 inch $ on it was teh cool! 😉 And yeah- what is the pigeon thing about? Don’t hard guys prefer cockfighting or dogs? Seems a little lame… [/QUOTE] These guys aren’t going out of their way to do anything except be disruptive, shitty neighbors. But maybe you’re right, these guys are just big old stoned teddy bears. It doesn’t matter. If someone is giving on an intimidating thug vibe it’s because they want to. These guys could have been raised in the nicest part of Naperville. But they’re acting like thugs so they’ll be approached like thugs. We can go on and on over-intellectualizing a simple situation like a bunch of nerds with too much time on our hands, or just realize that no matter what the thought process is behind it, if it seems like there is a chance of conflict, just don’t fucking narc on them and figure out another solution. Easy. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/70 "2007-10-28T23:02:34Z")
[QUOTE=fisha] I bet you’re not a redhead, are you? [/QUOTE] Depends. We talking carpet or drapes? ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/71 "2007-10-28T23:03:40Z")
[QUOTE=lobstermobster] But they’re acting like thugs so they’ll be approached like thugs. [/quote] I doubt it. Again, if they did all of those shifty things, how come **VCO3** wasn’t bothered enough by them to mention them in the original thread? This picture just doesn’t make sense: he’s a card-carrying NORML member yet, with all of these “thuggish guys” doing all of these “thuggish” things, the only thing that mattered to him enough to mention in his OP was that they smoked a lot of pot and it was stinking up the complex? I call shenanigans, to quote someone else in this thread. > [@lobstermobster](#): > > if it seems like there is a chance of conflict, just don’t fucking narc on them and figure out another solution. Easy. So, you’re saying that if you thought your neighbors were training dogs to fight, you wouldn’t inform the landlord, you would look for a peaceful, non-confrontational solution? ---
**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/72 "2007-10-28T23:07:29Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] I doubt it. Again, if they did all of those shifty things, how come **VCO3** wasn’t bothered enough by them to mention them in the original thread? This picture just doesn’t make sense: he’s a card-carrying NORML member yet, with all of these “thuggish guys” doing all of these “thuggish” things, the only thing that mattered to him enough to mention in his OP was that they smoked a lot of pot and it was stinking up the complex? I call shenanigans, to quote someone else in this thread. So, you’re saying that if you thought your neighbors were training dogs to fight, you wouldn’t inform the landlord, you would look for a peaceful, non-confrontational solution? [/QUOTE] Yeah you’re right I mean none of us know really how thugged out these guys actually appear. I’m just going on the information I have. And pot-smoking and dog fighting just aren’t comparable crimes. I would tip the cops off about the dog fighting. Pot smoking isn’t hurting anything and I would definitely prefer a non-confrontational solution. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/73 "2007-10-28T23:21:22Z")
[QUOTE=lobstermobster] Yeah you’re right I mean none of us know really how thugged out these guys actually appear. I’m just going on the information I have. And pot-smoking and dog fighting just aren’t comparable crimes. I would tip the cops off about the dog fighting. Pot smoking isn’t hurting anything and I would definitely prefer a non-confrontational solution. [/QUOTE] That’s exactly what I’m saying. If someone in my complex looked like they could be engaging in dogfighting, I would not be starting a thread saying “Hey guys, these dudes are smoking pot in my complex. I don’t think they would share if I asked, and they’re stinking up the apartment. What should I do?” ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/74 "2007-10-28T23:21:51Z")
Since I am the current holder of the SDMB Trout of Awesomeness, I’ll be happy to facilitate. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/75 "2007-10-28T23:23:15Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] That’s the idea, yes. You capitalize **Sarahfeena** anywhere in a sentence (to use a less-than-random example), so don’t capitalize mine no matter where it is. [/QUOTE] Well, since you used me as a non-random example, I have to interject to say that at least you generally seem to get your name spelled right. I get: Sarafina Sarafeena Sarahfina Serafeena Serafina Sarahfeenah …etc., etc., etc. Glad that you are not driven to pit people over a capitalization problem, but frankly, I’m surprised you even bothered to correct what was obviously a conflict of proper usage. Lighten up, dude! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/76 "2007-10-28T23:32:11Z")
[QUOTE=Sarahfeena] Well, since you used me as a non-random example, I have to interject to say that at least you generally seem to get your name spelled right. I get: Sarafina Sarafeena Sarahfina Serafeena Serafina Sarahfeenah …etc., etc., etc. Glad that you are not driven to pit people over a capitalization problem, but frankly, I’m surprised you even bothered to correct what was obviously a conflict of proper usage. Lighten up, dude! 🙂 [/QUOTE] OK, sure, but at least you can actually search for mentions of your name without weeding through a million abortion threads. Back on point: anyone care to explain what I’m smelling with this strange prioritization of smelly weed over dogfighting? ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/77 "2007-10-28T23:39:17Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] OK, sure, but at least you can actually search for mentions of your name without weeding through a million abortion threads. [/QUOTE] Actually, not so much, but for a different reason… 🙂 > [@](#): > > Back on point: anyone care to explain what I’m smelling with this strange prioritization of smelly weed over dogfighting? I have no idea. Other than what I posted above, I don’t get anything about his thought processes. Well, I get that he likes to be some kind of iconoclast/outsider wherever he is, and has a strong streak of victimhood as well. Maybe that’s it…with the dogfighting, he can’t figure out how to make it all about him. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/78 "2007-10-28T23:51:19Z")
Although several people have asked nicely already, answers have not been forthcoming. So I must ask again: What the hell do pigeon coops have to do with anything? ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2007, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/79 "2007-10-28T23:55:52Z")
[QUOTE=Sapo] Although several people have asked nicely already, answers have not been forthcoming. So I must ask again: What the hell do pigeon coops have to do with anything? [/QUOTE] They’re apparently used for training dogs, according to the picture **VCO3** posted. The fact that they’re included in his list of “thuggish” activities suggest that they’re being used to train fighting dogs. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306/80 "2007-10-29T00:01:32Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] They’re apparently used for training dogs, according to the picture **VCO3** posted. The fact that they’re included in his list of “thuggish” activities suggest that they’re being used to train fighting dogs. [/QUOTE] So they fight chihuahuas and toy pomeranias? How do you train fight dogs with pigeon coops? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vco3s-real-problem-with-his-neighbors-a-shocking-expose/424306.md?page=5)