# VEEP 5/8/16: the Queen is a "fucking cunt" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371 "2016-05-09T03:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/1 "2016-05-09T03:48:45Z")
VEEP is apparently now being written by a team of semi-literate teenagers who believe that this sort of vulgarity takes the place of good writing. I’m not a prude, and I’ve been watching HBO programming for many years, but this little gem reaches a low that I wasn’t sure was possible. It had nothing to do with the show’s story line and everything to do with how the bottom has fallen out of the quality of writing for the show. It now consists of nonstop profanity and different twists on how to stick various objects in various orifices. I would expect that next the writers will be making merry with pedophiles. I’ve always liked JLD for her comedic timing, and thought that she had some class. I’m shocked that she would agree to utter this dialog, and have written to the network to protest its inclusion. We won’t be watching any further episodes. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/2 "2016-05-09T03:51:58Z")
Hi… have you met Veep? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/3 "2016-05-09T05:01:38Z")
Really? You feel that strongly about the Queen? ---
**Author:** ![bobo\_blesinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ecae2f/32.png) [@bobo\_blesinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobo_blesinger)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/4 "2016-05-09T05:13:38Z")
Oh dear, I hope you were near your fainting couch. The floor can be awfully hard. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/5 "2016-05-09T06:21:04Z")
Please don’t ever get the idea to check out what else this Armando Iannucci fellow has done. Especially not if you are a fan of Doctor Who. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/6 "2016-05-09T07:22:59Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I would expect that next the writers will be making merry with pedophiles. > > . And why not? In fact Chris Morris, one of the directors of the show and like Iannucci a comic genius, did this in one of his shows several years back to hilarious effect. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/7 "2016-05-09T07:24:04Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I’m not a prude Behavior suggests otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/8 "2016-05-09T07:33:47Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > And why not? In fact Chris Morris, one of the directors of the show and like Iannucci a comic genius, did this in one of his shows several years back to hilarious effect. Load of noncesense if you ask me ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/9 "2016-05-09T09:49:10Z")
I rather suspect that that line will be censored should the show make it to the UK. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/10 "2016-05-09T10:51:26Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I rather suspect that that line will be censored should the show make it to the UK. I very, very much doubt that, and I can only imagine Iannucci or Morris’s reaction to such a request. (Plus the Q-unit is smart enough not to provoke a [“Streisand effect”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect)) Why would it be censored? A fictional president in a fictional universe abuses a fictional queen in a fictional universe? ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/11 "2016-05-09T11:15:57Z")
I’m not sure having said offensive line in the title of this thread was a good plan. I don’t particularly want to have to read it every time I visit the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/12 "2016-05-09T11:37:37Z")
It’s a word. Big deal. ---
**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/13 "2016-05-09T12:16:44Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > VEEP is apparently now being written by a team of semi-literate teenagers who believe that this sort of vulgarity takes the place of good writing. I’m not a prude, and I’ve been watching HBO programming for many years, but this little gem reaches a low that I wasn’t sure was possible. It had nothing to do with the show’s story line and everything to do with how the bottom has fallen out of the quality of writing for the show. It now consists of nonstop profanity and different twists on how to stick various objects in various orifices. I would expect that next the writers will be making merry with pedophiles. > > I’ve always liked JLD for her comedic timing, and thought that she had some class. I’m shocked that she would agree to utter this dialog, and have written to the network to protest its inclusion. We won’t be watching any further episodes. As others have said Iannucci has written far more shocking stuff(I realise he is no longer a writer on Veep) and most of it worked fairly well. I do think some of the language in \*The Thick of It \*was gratuitous. One example in particular sticks in my mind. It’s worthless complaining about bad language on a forum such as this as earthy language is the in thing at the moment, and as I suggested previously it often adds to a show. However, the use of bad language in a show is often the last bastion of an uncreative motherfucking cocksucker writers. ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/14 "2016-05-09T13:01:04Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > I very, very much doubt that, and I can only imagine Iannucci or Morris’s reaction to such a request. (Plus the Q-unit is smart enough not to provoke a [“Streisand effect”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect)) > > Why would it be censored? A fictional president in a fictional universe abuses a fictional queen in a fictional universe? I concur. **Quartz** has obviously never watched The Thick of It. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/15 "2016-05-09T13:06:39Z")
> [@SanVito](#): > > I concur. **Quartz** has obviously never watched The Thick of It. You’re correct, I have not. The reported excessive bad language turns me right off. But in this case, I think the language would be self-censored. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/16 "2016-05-09T15:25:19Z")
Oh dearie me, I’m getting a case of vapors. ---
**Author:** ![nicky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f0a364/32.png) [@nicky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicky)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/17 "2016-05-09T16:59:26Z")
This is a goverment department! Not a fucking Jane fucking Austen novel ! ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/18 "2016-05-09T17:31:18Z")
Yesterday CBC was showing a special about the Queen for her 90th birthday. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2016, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/19 "2016-05-09T17:50:20Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > Oh dearie me, I’m getting a case of vapors. Oh, my stars and garters! ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/20 "2016-05-10T00:26:00Z")
I haven’t gotten HBO in awhile and since haven’t since VEEP but I think you’re being premature. The ability to use a word like that (in a witty way) is what makes HBO a great place for adult, witty comedy. Off the top of my head I can think of two great HBO shows that did just this. _Curb Your Enthusiasm_ had an episode called _Beloved Aunt_ in which Larry’s aunt dies and when he orders the condolence cards the printer screws up and instead they have ‘Beloved Cunt’ written on them. His family is furious thinking he did it deliberately. Ironically in another episode guest starring JLD they are playing cards at her house and when somebody (a man) makes a really bad play he shouts, _“Oh you cunt! You stupid cunt!”_ Nobody says anything but everyone is shocked and leaves. Another was a quick scene in _The Larry Sanders Show_. Both Brooke Shields and Marlee Matlin are booked as guests and since Matlin was booked first she expects to go on first. Brooke Shields just says, _“I don’t care, I’m the bigger star, I’m going on first”_, to which Matlin signs something to her interpreter and he turns to Shields and says, _“Cunt”_. 😃 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371.md?page=2)