# VEEP 5/8/16: the Queen is a "fucking cunt" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 9, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371 "2016-05-09T03:48:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/21 "2016-05-10T01:24:41Z")
My only problem is that Selina said it at a private event in NYC instead of say accidently letting it slip & be overhead a footman during a state visit to the UK (though Borgen already did it). ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/22 "2016-05-10T11:06:32Z")
Selena Meyer does seem to have gotten both nastier and dumber of late. I like the show but it’s increasingly unclear how she could plausibly have been elected to Senate in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![mcgato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac8455/32.png) [@mcgato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mcgato)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/23 "2016-05-10T12:07:02Z")
I should note that the current US senate has at least a dozen blithering idiots. That a character like Selena Meyer got elected shouldn’t be a stretch. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/24 "2016-05-10T14:50:59Z")
Love the show, loved the cunt line. As for Meyers being too stupid to be elected senator, I could provide you a list of moron senators. Let’s not forget that there are members of the senate who routinely make comments that show that they don’t have a basic understanding of female biology or high school level science. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/25 "2016-05-10T15:29:21Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Selena Meyer does seem to have gotten both nastier and dumber of late. I like the show but it’s increasingly unclear how she could plausibly have been elected to Senate in the first place. Or Secretary of State, either! Wait, who are we talkin’ about? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/26 "2016-05-10T15:35:22Z")
Okay, I’ll walk back the dumbness, but we see over and over that when Meyer speaks publicly, she routinely embarrasses herself. Not a disqualification for American elected office either, I grant, but she’s also determinedly nasty to her personal staff… Perhaps I’m being overly idealistic here. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/27 "2016-05-10T17:18:06Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Okay, I’ll walk back the dumbness, but we see over and over that when Meyer speaks publicly, she routinely embarrasses herself. Nancy Reagan began the conversation about AIDS in the 80s. Not many people talk about that. We’re on CPT…“careful politician time.” ---
**Author:** ![Disheavel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@Disheavel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disheavel)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/28 "2016-05-10T17:32:39Z")
In defense of **Chefguy** , I am a big fan of Veep and like how they do push the envelope, but I went back to season 1 and am catching a couple of episodes nightly and I have to say that they didn’t go for quite this “easy shock” in earlier years. There would have at least been a couple of set up lines beforehand about how the Queen’s parade ruined someone’s vacation or something about corgies to lead into the joke. I’m the furthest thing from a prude, but I simply think that going for the shock sells the comedy short. I’ve also noticed this on Wait, Wait Don’t Tell Me over the weekend. It just isn’t as funny when they do innuendo (and out the other) or oversexed stories. There is plenty of humor in the news to play upon, but when 3 stories/bits in a row rely on poor taste, it is just not as good of a show. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/29 "2016-05-10T17:47:28Z")
I’m not getting this. The line in question was near the end of the episode, which was already filled with such language and concepts. Is it just the C-word that makes the difference? And I gotta say, this kind of language is not unusual for politicians. Get a bunch of drunken sailors and politicians together and the sailors will leave because they’re offended by the language. I like the show, I thought the line was funny, it wasn’t simply thrown out there, the whole show created a context for it. I’m far more offended watching the news. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/30 "2016-05-10T17:55:16Z")
> [@Disheavel](#): > > There would have at least been a couple of set up lines beforehand about how the Queen’s parade ruined someone’s vacation or something about corgies to lead into the joke. The point of that joke, IMO, that is Gary was really excited telling a story about the Queen and Selina just comes in and shits all over Gary, without even thinking about it, by her comment. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/31 "2016-05-10T17:57:40Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Okay, I’ll walk back the dumbness, but we see over and over that when Meyer speaks publicly, she routinely embarrasses herself. Not a disqualification for American elected office either, I grant, but she’s also determinedly nasty to her personal staff… Remember she was the Vice President, and VPs have been known for saying idiotic things in public - Quayle, Biden, etc. As for being nasty to her personal staff, it seems like this is a normal thing in Veep’s universe. She’s not even close to being as nasty as Senator Furlong is. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/32 "2016-05-10T18:05:17Z")
Pleasingly, Richard Splett’s blog is a real thing. > **[Veep | Official Website for the HBO Series | HBO.com](https://www.hbo.com/veep)** > > The official website for Veep on HBO, featuring interviews, schedule information, behind the scenes exclusives, and more. Plenty of speculation about the true nature of Tom Bombadil, as you might expect. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/33 "2016-05-10T18:22:48Z")
Note that this episode was directed and co-produced by Chris Addison, who is from England (where “cunt” is a much more widely-used term) and one of the stars of Ianucci’s original series _The Thick Of It_ (on which this series is loosely based) where the language was a blue and rapid-fire as a Smurf on speed. Addison directed some episodes in the 2nd and 3rd seasons, so you might find that his episodes have some reflection of him where others are a reflection of their respective directors. Also I am extremely attracted to Chris Addison. _Extremely_. ---
**Author:** ![norvalnormal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f19dbf/32.png) [@norvalnormal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norvalnormal)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/34 "2016-05-10T19:13:29Z")
And season 1 of Veep–even if relatively restrained-- was not very good. I almost stopped watching the show (and am very happy that I remained a viewer). Season 2 was, straight out of the starting gate, light-years ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/35 "2016-05-10T19:43:41Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Okay, I’ll walk back the dumbness, but we see over and over that when Meyer speaks publicly, she routinely embarrasses herself. Not a disqualification for American elected office either, I grant, but she’s also determinedly nasty to her personal staff… > > Perhaps I’m being overly idealistic here. Perhaps it’s my lack of creativity, but I have a hard time seeing how a comedy would work with all the characters acting completely professional all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/36 "2016-05-10T20:00:48Z")
…never mind. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/37 "2016-05-10T22:35:20Z")
Is the OP supposed to be a parody? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2016, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/38 "2016-05-10T22:46:56Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Perhaps it’s my lack of creativity, but I have a hard time seeing how a comedy would work with all the characters acting completely professional all the time. I dunno, the 1980s sitcom _The Excluded Middle_ was pretty clever. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2016, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/39 "2016-05-11T00:28:47Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > The point of that joke, IMO, that is Gary was really excited telling a story about the Queen and Selina just comes in and shits all over Gary, without even thinking about it, by her comment. Of course Gary was really excited, he got to set at the grownups’ table and talk to people who weren’t treating him like a male lady’s maid. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371/40 "2016-05-17T17:49:56Z")
Selina’s threat to cancel something faster than Anne Frank’s bat mitzvah! is one I’m surprised made it to air even on HBO. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-5-8-16-the-queen-is-a-fucking-cunt/754371.md?page=1)