# Veep, season 5 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 25, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067 "2016-04-25T06:29:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2016, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/1 "2016-04-25T06:29:32Z")
The new season of _Veep_ premiered tonight (overshadowed by Game of Thrones, as always), and it was surprisingly good, given that the original show creator has departed. Usually, that presages a sharp decline in quality (see Community and West Wing), but in this case I wouldn’t have known anything had changed. Lots of funny lines as always. Two questions: (1) If there’s a tie in the house of representatives, then the vice president elect becomes the president? But how can there be a vice president elect? Why would it be Hugh Laurie instead of the other guy’s running mate? Does anyone know how it actually works? (2) Does anyone remember what crime Bill Erickson committed? Was he her campaign manager for a while last season? I frankly don’t remember who he is at all. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/2 "2016-04-26T22:08:05Z")
It was a pretty good season premiere. I guess the whole season will be about the outcome, with the Nevada count and then the House and Senate votes. As I understand the 12th amendment, if the electoral college is tied, then the House chooses the President and the Senate chooses the Veep. If the House vote is tied (each state’s congress people vote as a bloc so each state gets one vote), then the Veep chosen by the Senate becomes President. Similar to Presidential Succession. If the Senate is \*also \*tied (DC doesn’t get a vote) then the Speaker of the House becomes President. Again, Succession. In the shows case vs reality, it’s a little unlikely that Selena would have had such a close election as we’re told the Dems made some big gains in Congress. Bill Erickson was involved in the illegal use of names and information related to the Family Act (?), and with everyone questioned pointing fingers, he was the one eventually thrown under the bus. ---
**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2016, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/3 "2016-04-26T22:39:11Z")
My favorite line of the episode came early: Ben: Two great Greek contributions to society - democracy, and getting fucked up the ass. Selina: Yeah, I’ve tried both and they’re way overrated. Like jazz. I love the dialogue in this show! ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/4 "2016-04-29T01:31:02Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > …As I understand the 12th amendment, if the electoral college is tied, then the House chooses the President and the Senate chooses the Veep. If the House vote is tied (each state’s congress people vote as a bloc so each state gets one vote), then the Veep chosen by the Senate becomes President. Similar to Presidential Succession. If the Senate is \*also \*tied (DC doesn’t get a vote) then the Speaker of the House becomes President. Again, Succession… It doesn’t have to a tie; anytime no candidate fails to win a _majority_ of votes in the Electoral College the election get’s kicked to Congress. It’s been almost 50 years since a 3rd party candidate got _any_ electoral votes; let alone denied a candidate a majority (that was in 1824). Also while the Senate his limited to the top 2 VP candidates the House get’s to pick from the top _3_ presidential candidates. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/5 "2016-06-20T05:19:19Z")
Well I guess they really are going to have Selena demoted to serving as Tom’s VP; it’s be really anticlimactic if they just had the House keep voting until it elects a President. Also Catherine’s a \*terrible \*documentary filmmaker; good think she’s rich. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/6 "2016-06-20T14:48:02Z")
The name of the show is Veep, after all. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/7 "2016-06-27T04:35:29Z")
And now Selina isn’t even going to be Vice-President anymore. 😕 So is next season going to have a whole new cast, or what? Or flash forward 4 years and she’s somehow managed to get an a presidential ticket? Or are they just going to pull a Bobby Ewing? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/8 "2016-06-27T04:50:40Z")
Or was that the series finale? Is it definitely confirmed that it’s coming back for another season? ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/9 "2016-06-27T04:58:57Z")
[Yes](http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/21/game-thrones). I always imagined the series finale would have Selina having a meltdown on national TV (or to really go dark ordering an unwarranted nuclear strike). ---
**Author:** ![Nebulous\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8dc957/32.png) [@Nebulous\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nebulous_1)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/10 "2016-06-27T09:42:00Z")
I wish I had HBO, I have been meaning to check this show out. Julia Louis-Dreyfus is pretty amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/11 "2016-06-27T20:54:24Z")
They’ve written themselves into such a hole that this should have been the series finale. Just end it with the question that Dr. House asked and leave it at that. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/12 "2016-06-28T00:00:59Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > Well I guess they really are going to have Selena demoted to serving as Tom’s VP Unless he plans to keep her around as a sex slave of sorts so he can keep privately humiliating her (in followup to their earlier “I fucked you!” “No, I fucked YOU!” conversation, that ended in them fucking each other), I find it a tad implausible that he’d want her as Veep, but I guess I could tolerate it as long as the level of comedy remains consistent. He’s certainly under no _obligation_ to choose her as Veep, as far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/13 "2016-06-28T00:05:16Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Unless he plans to keep her around as a sex slave of sorts so he can keep privately humiliating her (in followup to their earlier “I fucked you!” “No, I fucked YOU!” conversation, that ended in them fucking each other), I find it a tad implausible that he’d want her as Veep, but I guess I could tolerate it as long as the level of comedy remains consistent. > > He’s certainly under no _obligation_ to choose her as Veep, as far as I know. This point is now moot as Laauuura is now President. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/14 "2016-06-28T00:18:03Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > This point is now moot as Laauuura is now President. I don’t offhand remember who that is, and I should probably stop posting until I’ve actually seen the last episode. ---
**Author:** ![hogarth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hogarth/32/1773_2.png) [@hogarth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hogarth)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/15 "2016-06-28T00:50:40Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > And now Selina isn’t even going to be Vice-President anymore. 😕 So is next season going to have a whole new cast, or what? Or flash forward 4 years and she’s somehow managed to get an a presidential ticket? Or are they just going to pull a Bobby Ewing? My guess is that they’ll follow President Laura (and VP Jonad? I wish) while Selina schemes to join the Grover Cleveland Club. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/16 "2016-06-28T05:21:39Z")
Okay, I’ve seen it now and I gather the show takes place in an alternate universe where political parties barely exist. Not an entirely unappealing thought, I must admit. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/17 "2016-06-28T09:44:27Z")
There was a definite awkward moment when Laauuuuura, was quizzed by Selina regarding her birthplace and background. Did I read too much into that? it seemed to pass off as Selina having yet another bitchy moment but it wasn’t definitively put to bed. The next series could switch sides quite easily. Armando Iannucci did switch focus to the other political flavour in “the thick of it” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/18 "2016-06-28T13:07:07Z")
The current plan is to keep flowing Selina Myers in retirement, though that can change. Myers was digging at the new presidents background because the new president panders heavily her Latina roots, which are about as deep as Elizabeth Warren’s native American roots. ---
**Author:** ![Personal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Personal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Personal)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/19 "2016-06-28T13:23:34Z")
It certainly had a series finale feel to it. Hard telling where they go from here. There’s really no excuse to reassemble her staff, which I thought was the strength of the show. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067/20 "2016-06-28T13:41:01Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > There was a definite awkward moment when Laauuuuura, was quizzed by Selina regarding her birthplace and background. > Did I read too much into that? it seemed to pass off as Selina having yet another bitchy moment but it wasn’t definitively put to bed. Selina’s point seemed to be that Laura played up her Hispanic ethnicity but she was born and raised in Indiana (as I remember) and was basically a white American woman. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veep-season-5/753067.md?page=2)