# Veganism

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veganism/168810>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 15, 2003, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veganism/168810 "2003-04-15T04:11:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veganism/168810/161 "2003-05-15T22:44:27Z")

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**the\_great\_dalmuti** , are you in fact willing to address my requests for references to support your assertions. Just to keep it clear, I would like to see any evidence to support your claims that:

1)Vegetable farmers do not burn down large chunks of rainforest to raise veggies.  
2)\>50% of all crops are fed to animals.  
3) Meat production is more wasteful.  
4) Meat production utilises more Roundup Ready crops than does plant food production.  
5) Meat production causes the destruction of more rainforest than plant production.  
Your position seems to be based entirely on these and other similar claims, which you seem to take for granted that all participants accept as fact. I wish to make it clear that I do not accept these claims as being true, and therefore regard any argument built on them to be spurious at best.

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**Author:** ![Dev\_Null](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@Dev\_Null](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dev_Null)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2003, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veganism/168810/162 "2003-05-16T02:11:31Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by the\_great\_dalmuti \*  
> **[b/]DrDeth**
> 
> Here’s a little bit of proof. (Though you probably won’t agree.)
> 
> [http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/05/14/coolsc.disappearingfish/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/science/05/14/coolsc.disappearingfish/index.html)  
> -TGD \*\*

I, too, read that article with dismay. But comparing the orgy of commercial fisherman mining fishies like coal deposits is hardly proof of your argument at all. Fortunately, agriculture in the form of aquaculture is already helping alleviate the problem.

Best,  
Dev Null

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