# Vegetarian boxed lunch is a LIE! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 17, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259 "2003-07-17T23:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/181 "2003-07-21T10:49:28Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gary Kumquat \* > \*\*… This leaves you completely open to such long term fears as smelling of cabbage, having to save money in a pension rather than blowing it all on toys now, and being ridiculed by people much younger than you. > > Is this really the fate you desire? Please kabbes, I beg you, reconsider and have a bacon sarnie. \*\* Fate I desire? Hell, you’ve just summed up my life _now_. Except for the “saving money” bit of course. pan ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/182 "2003-07-21T12:32:00Z")
I am a vegetarian who does not drink alcohol, sugar-sweetened drinks or decaf. If I ask for a vegetarian meal and get wine or Kool-Aid or Sanka, should I throw a fit? ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/183 "2003-07-21T14:17:35Z")
I can prolly guess what happened. At order time you said: “Make mine a veggie” So your co-worker sez to the sandwich guy: “Ok make one a veggie please” You shoulda said: “veggie, no egg, no mayo” Case closed, your welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/184 "2003-07-21T14:31:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tony Montana \* > \*\*I can prolly guess what happened. At order time you said: “Make mine a veggie” So your co-worker sez to the sandwich guy: “Ok make one a veggie please” > You shoulda said: “veggie, no egg, no mayo” > > Case closed, your welcome. \*\* To which the OP will reply that he said earlier in this thread that he told said coworker on numerous occassions that he didn’t want egg or mayo on his sandwich, and that they should have known that. At which point I’ll say “It’s not your coworker’s responsibility to ensure you get exactly what you want, it is _yours_, even if that means repeating “no egg, no mayo” every goddamn day for the rest of your life, so stop whining and shut the fuck up.” ---
**Author:** ![Tony\_Montana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/278dde/32.png) [@Tony\_Montana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tony_Montana)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/185 "2003-07-21T15:03:40Z")
Lets chant! VEGGIE,NO EGGS,NO MAYO VEGGIE, NO EGGS, NO MAYO VEGGIE, NO EGGS, NO MAYO… ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/186 "2003-07-21T15:39:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Annie-Xmas \* > \*\*I am a vegetarian who does not drink alcohol, sugar-sweetened drinks or decaf. If I ask for a vegetarian meal and get wine or Kool-Aid or Sanka, should I throw a fit? \*\* No, you should take it as the opportunity to overcome the one glaring flaw in your otherwise excellent diet. Drink the wine. ---
**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/187 "2003-07-21T17:36:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OpalCat \* > \*\*I run the vegetarian community on LiveJournal and also the website [www.vegetarianstuff.com](http://www.vegetarianstuff.com) and I speak from a position of experience when I say that people like you DRIVE THE REST OF US VEGETARIANS CRAZY!!! You make people hate vegetarians. You make our lives much more difficult. > > PLEASE OBTAIN A CLUE and carry it with you at all times. \*\* **OpalCat** I beg you to read all of my replies to this thread. For the 17,592,392nd time, I am not the kind of vegetarian that makes life difficult for other vegetarians. I hate those militant preachy veg-heads as much as their meat-eating victims, and as much as you. Like I said earlier, it might take months before you will even notice that I am a vegetarian, I am so quiet about it in RL. The pit is here to vent. So please refrain from forming opinions about anybody based on what you read from or about them here. ---
**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/188 "2003-07-21T17:46:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*To which the OP will reply that he said earlier in this thread that he told said coworker on numerous occassions that he didn’t want egg or mayo on his sandwich, and that they should have known that. At which point I’ll say “It’s not your coworker’s responsibility to ensure you get exactly what you want, it is _yours_, even if that means repeating “no egg, no mayo” every goddamn day for the rest of your life, so stop whining and shut the fuck up.” \*\* Nah. By now I’d say, “you’re (meaning **Tony Montana** ) right.” From now on it’s… **VEGGIE,NO EGGS,NO MAYO!** ---
**Author:** ![Zhen\_ka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecccb3/32.png) [@Zhen\_ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zhen_ka)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/189 "2003-07-21T18:46:44Z")
[hijack] **kabbes** , I have a request. Please check your email. Thanks! [/hijack] ---
**Author:** ![Gotterfunken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/58956e/32.png) [@Gotterfunken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gotterfunken)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/190 "2003-07-21T18:46:47Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OpalCat \* > \*\*Do most airlines do this? Have lacto-ovo meals available, I mean? I’ll have to remember to ask next time I fly… I always assumed that since the vegetarian meal is the most bland and lame vegan fare imaginable that they only had the one vegetarian option. \*\* I think so. I’ve usually flown [Delta](http://www.delta.com/travel/during_flight/dining/index.jsp), and I know they definitely offer a variety of vegetarian options, including: Vegetarian—Ovo Lacto, Asian (Hindu), and Pure Vegetarian. I’ve seen similar options on other airlines, and think the lacto-ovo option is pretty widespread if not universal. If you just order “vegetarian,” however, Delta will give you the vegan meal, that is, “Pure Vegetarian”–which is indeed boring and bland. As a cheese-lover, I hate the “Pure Vegetarian” meal, and will never eat it again. (now that I’m involved in a serious relationship with a meat-eater, this should be a moot point, as I’ve compromised my ethical principles and will eat fish or chicken when my SO prepares it. However, I still tend to prefer meatless, but cheese-filled menu options.) ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/191 "2003-07-21T19:38:37Z")
Don’t wanna hijack, but I’ve got to respond to that last bit about compromising your ethical principals because you’re in a relationship with a meat eater. I’ve been in relationships with meat eaters, including living with one. There’s no need to compromise your ethical principals for the sake of a relationship. If there’s other reasons, fine, but don’t hide behind “but he cooked a dinner for us!” If can’t respect the fact that you’re vegetarian, you’re better off without him. Hijack over, sorry 'bout that everyone. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/192 "2003-07-21T19:48:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by prisoner6655321 \* > \*\ ***OpalCat** > > I beg you to read all of my replies to this thread. For the 17,592,392nd time, I am not the kind of vegetarian that makes life difficult for other vegetarians. I hate those militant preachy veg-heads as much as their meat-eating victims, and as much as you. Like I said earlier, it might take months before you will even notice that I am a vegetarian, I am so quiet about it in RL. The pit is here to vent. So please refrain from forming opinions about anybody based on what you read from or about them here. \*\* I have read all of your replies to this thread, and all it has convinced me of is that you’re a bit of an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/193 "2003-07-21T20:00:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*prisoner6655321: \*\* From now on it’s… > **VEGGIE,NO EGGS,NO MAYO!** I swear I just heard a chorus of angels, there. :applause: ---
**Author:** ![singular1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ba9def/32.png) [@singular1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/singular1)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/194 "2003-07-21T20:28:26Z")
How can vegans eat bread? Bread ingredients regularly include butter and/or fats, milk or milk powder and eggs. How are you going to know what’s in this bread, if you’re not actually buying the whole loaf and reading the labels? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/195 "2003-07-21T20:55:09Z")
\*I once had a friend who wouldn’t eat an egg. She wouldn’t eat an egg. She wouldn’t eat an egg. I once had a friend who wouldn’t eat an egg. But she would eat turds and soap.\* ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/196 "2003-07-21T21:49:40Z")
**Singular** , sourdough bread is vegan. When in doubt, order sourdough. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/197 "2003-07-21T22:18:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lezlers \* > \*\ ***Singular** , sourdough bread is vegan. When in doubt, order sourdough. \*\* It is? > [@](#): > > Making the sourdough starter: Unless you are fortunate to find someone with an established sourdough starter, begin by making your own. Use 6-8 ounces of plain, organically produced **cow or goat milk yogurt.** From [This sourdough bread recipe](http://www.geocities.com/newlibertyvillage/earthstar/sourdoughrecipe.htm). Yes, some “sourdough” bread uses artificial flavors, but you can never tell at a restaurant. Might want to rethink that idea. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/198 "2003-07-21T22:34:47Z")
Oh, for cryin’ out loud. Every loaf of sourdough bread I’ve seen in my 6 years of being vegan, has been vegan. Every loaf that I’ve bought in every store and every resteraunt I’ve worked in. I’m willing to take my chances. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/199 "2003-07-21T22:46:34Z")
> **[Care2 is the world's largest social network for good, a community of over 40...](https://www.care2.com/)** > > Largest online community empowering people to lead a healthy and green lifestyle while taking action on important causes such as human rights, animal welfare and global warming. [http://www.markshep.com/nonviolence/Sourdough.html](http://www.markshep.com/nonviolence/Sourdough.html) [http://home.teleport.com/~packham/sourdo.htm](http://home.teleport.com/~packham/sourdo.htm) [http://www.einfo-net.com/sourdough/recipe001.stm](http://www.einfo-net.com/sourdough/recipe001.stm) Notice the last link contained 6 starter recipies, 4 of which were vegan. My point is, sourdough is more likely to be vegan than not. Your link also called for _grinding your own flour_. I doubt many resteraunts will be serving their bread, as I’m sure it’s a good deal more expensive than a store bought brand. Honestly, this is one of my pet peeves. People that go around looking to “catch” vegans eating something not vegan. Freakin’ meat eaters will come up to me as I’m eating and question every single thing I have on my plate. “Is that vegan? Is that?” No assholes, I’m goin’ off the wagon today. :rolleyes: _Whew_ I feel better now. ---
**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/200 "2003-07-21T22:56:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kaylasdad99 \* > \*\*Hey, **Mama Tiger** , if your cow-orker’s Scary Green Stuff[sup]TM[/sup] looked substantially like [this](http://www.happycookers.com/wc.dll/recipes/divulge/1197.html), then Spirulina is likely what it was. \*\* EUREKA! That’s IT! And my reaction to it this time is the same as the first time. I don’t CARE if it’s healthy and nutritious, it looks like something my dog would throw up after eating week-old garbage! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259.md?page=11)