# Vegetarian boxed lunch is a LIE!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 17, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259 "2003-07-17T23:49:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/121 "2003-07-18T23:05:50Z")

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Dang, here we go again. I don’t act this way in RL. I’m starting to realize that even in the SDMB you get some real morons.  
**READ THE WHOLE DAMN THREAD BEFORE YOU MINDLESSLY JUDGE THE OP!**

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**Author:** ![Fin\_man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@Fin\_man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fin_man)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/122 "2003-07-18T23:23:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by prisoner6655321 \*  
> \*\*Dang, here we go again. I don’t act this way in RL. I’m starting to realize that even in the SDMB you get some real morons.  
> **READ THE WHOLE DAMN THREAD BEFORE YOU MINDLESSLY JUDGE THE OP!** \*\*

And you are the head moron?

You say in the OP

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> If you don’t know that the vegetarian isn’t a vegan, then play it safe and make the lunch vegan!

This implies that you are vegan and the deli worker should have known (even though you asked for a vegetarian sandwich.)

_later_, you say

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> And I am not a Vegan, anyway. I am a lacto-vegetarian. I each cheese and drink milk but I do NOT eat eggs.

Under your request, somebody could start a thread and in the OP say “I think all short people should go to jail” but then later say “Actually, I love short people, I’m married to a short person, and short people are needed in this world.” This whould absolve you of anything you said in the OP against short people.

Sorry, the world (and the SDMB) doesn’t work that way. You can’t “take it back.”

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**Author:** ![whatami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85f322/32.png) [@whatami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whatami)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/123 "2003-07-18T23:34:19Z")

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**Fin\_man** is right, you can’t take it back. What you can do is say, “You were all right. I’m sorry I wrote all of that. I’ll try not to be stupid again.”

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2003, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/124 "2003-07-18T23:42:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Gulo gulo \*  
> \*\*My guess on **Mama Tiger** ’s green goo is spirulina. \*\*

Feeling extremely lazy this evening, care to enlighten me on what spirulina is?

And thanks, **QtheM**. It was always my understanding that (a) dairy doesn’t cause mucus, and (b) even if it does mucus doesn’t CAUSE diseases, it’s CAUSED by diseases (i.e. when you get a cold you get extra mucus – but when you get well it _goes away again_!). So like I said, I just said, “Uh, right,” and moved on…

**Prisoner** , you might as well stop trying to rewrite what you said and just admit that maybe this time your ignorance needed fighting and next time you should just tell 'em what you do and don’t want in your pita. The folks on here are too good at finding logical holes for you to continue pretending yours don’t exist!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/125 "2003-07-19T00:01:17Z")

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Um, what is “detox?” Is that like a fasting?

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**Author:** ![Gulo\_gulo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@Gulo\_gulo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gulo_gulo)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/126 "2003-07-19T00:17:10Z")

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**Mama Tiger** :

Spirulina is blue-green algae and looks like, well, green goo. My stepmom drinks it all the time and that’s pretty much the best way to describe it.

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**Author:** ![prisoner6655321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f8ce5/32.png) [@prisoner6655321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prisoner6655321)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/127 "2003-07-19T00:48:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Fin\_man \*
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> And you are the head moron?
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> You say in the OP
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> > If you don’t know that the vegetarian isn’t a vegan, then play it safe and make the lunch vegan!
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> This implies that you are vegan and the deli worker should have known (even though you asked for a vegetarian sandwich.

No it doesn’t. It means if they prepared it to the strictest standard then I would have had no problem eating it. I never said that I was vegan.

Did you read the whole thread?

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/128 "2003-07-19T01:00:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by prisoner6655321 \*  
> \*\*This implies that you are vegan and the deli worker should have known (even though you asked for a vegetarian sandwich.

No it doesn’t. It means if they prepared it to the strictest standard then I would have had no problem eating it. I never said that I was vegan.

Did you read the whole thread? \*\*  
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I’ve read the whole thread and you’re still an idiot.

You asked for a vegetarian lunch. You got a vegetarian lunch. An egg is vegetarian. An egg is not vegan. You are a vegetarian who does not eat eggs. You did not ask for a vegetarian lunch without eggs. You were angry because the workers did not read your mind and give you a vegetarian lunch without eggs.

You’re still an idiot and you give normal vegetarians a bad name.

Ava

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/129 "2003-07-19T01:03:43Z")

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And I’m an idiot who fucked up the coding (although all I did was hit quote, so can I blame that on someone else? Can I just blame it on Cecil and that he should have read my mind and known what I wanted quoted even though I didn’t specifically look it over to make sure the coding was correct?)

Ava

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/130 "2003-07-19T01:19:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Um, what is “detox?” Is that like a fasting? \*\*

A colon cleanse. Gets rid of all the toxins in your system, you feel great afterwards but you have to have INSANE willpower. I’ve done one, once. I lasted 4 weeks and it was a 6 week program. It’s pretty hard core.

There are different ways of doing it, fasting, herbs, mondo strict diet, enemas or a combination of these things.

And **mama** , I have no idea what the electric green goo was. Sorry.

**Prisoner** , I think the fact that you are refusing to take any responsibility for what happened is what’s pissing so many people off, you know, because it was entirely your fault. I’ve yet to see you take any responsibility for it.

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**Author:** ![Mearl\_Dox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@Mearl\_Dox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mearl_Dox)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/131 "2003-07-19T01:23:49Z")

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For a while, there was a fastfood sandwich I really liked, but I liked it even better without the beef, just with lettuce and sauces and tomatos and things. Frequently would I ask for it without the meat. Frequently would the reply come “Would you like bacon on that?”

I am a meat eater, I just like some vegetarian foods. And I know the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian, and I’d assume anyone who calls himself vegetarian eats no meat but eats eggs and milk and honey products unless otherwise informed.

And a pickled pepper sandwich would be great.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/132 "2003-07-19T01:27:09Z")

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Ah. Well, [Cecil Adams](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a900525.html) spoke about that.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/133 "2003-07-19T02:18:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
> **A colon cleanse. Gets rid of all the toxins in your system, you feel great afterwards but you have to have INSANE willpower. I’ve done one, once. I lasted 4 weeks and it was a 6 week program. It’s pretty hard core.**

Yeah, no offense intended, but this is basically nonsense. There’s no medical evidence that this sort of thing is beneficial. That said, there’s not all that much that says its particularly bad for you, either. The colon has little if anything to do with extracting “toxins” from the bloodstream; a task handled primarily by the liver, and the kidneys to a lesser extent.

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**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/134 "2003-07-19T03:12:03Z")

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is mucoid plaque also a urban legend?

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/135 "2003-07-19T03:28:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
> \*\*is mucoid plaque also a urban legend? \*\*

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> Apparently so.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/136 "2003-07-19T03:30:42Z")

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Crap. That was supposed to be a [link](http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/QA/mucoidplaque.html).

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/137 "2003-07-19T03:40:06Z")

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Besides, aren’t you SUPPOSED to have muccus in your bowels? I think there was a GQ question about this, and one of the posters who is a doctor ( **Qadgop**?) said that if you’re shitting muccus, it’s a BAD THING.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/138 "2003-07-19T03:43:26Z")

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Oh, [here is the thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=174539).

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**Author:** ![lokij](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@lokij](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lokij)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/139 "2003-07-19T06:29:10Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mhendo \*  
> \*\*If by “produces veal as a byproduct,” you mean that veal calves are fed milk, you are right, but your argument is moronic.
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> If i understand you correctly, you suggest that the OP shouldn’t drink milk because it is also fed to veal calves. By this logic, neither should vegetarians eat any grain or soy products, because those products are also fed to livestock in order to produce meat.
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Ummm… no… I’m not the moron here, that is by no stretch of the imagination my argument.Veal is a substantial byproduct of the modern dairy industry. Dairy cows are kept pregnant for as much of their lives as possible to keep up milk production, resulting female calves are raised as dairy cows but male calves are raised for veal. And most veal calves BTW are never fed ANY milk their entire lives, they are fed a formula milk substitute. Part of my post was a question on whether there are any sizable dairies that avoid this particular moral dilemma, although I don’t see how it’s possible.

Now _I_ don’t have a problem with this aspect of the dairy industry. I eat veal myself and drink milk ect… my question was directed at somebody who evidently had a moral problem with eating eggs but no such problem with milk. I fail to see how you could have even remotely interpreted my post as being ‘preachy’ on the side of vegetarianism. I could care less what other people choose to digest.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/140 "2003-07-19T12:57:02Z")

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> \*Originally posted by lezlers \*  
> \*\*And **MC Master of Ceremonies** , you’re obviously in here for the sole purpose of “baiting” vegetarians. That’s generally considered rude and generally as obnoxious as those evangical vegetarians who go around preaching. Just an FYI. \*\*

Oh come on. This thread went to hell on page 1. Relatively speaking, **MC** ’s remark was lighthearted.

—There have been several references to the OP getting a “free” lunch. I’m not sure his lunch was, in fact, free. Perhaps people are thinking of the anecdote about someone’s cow-orker who habitually bitched about _his_ free lunch?

— **prisoner** , your name is wrong. Alex was prisoner **six** -double-five-three-two-one, not double-six-double-five-three-two-one.

—Who the hell eats on a plane, anyway?

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