# Vegetarian boxed lunch is a LIE! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 17, 2003, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259 "2003-07-17T23:49:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/161 "2003-07-20T00:17:08Z")
poached, even. ---
**Author:** ![Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wonko_The_Sane)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/162 "2003-07-20T03:44:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mouthbreather \* > \*\*Only if it is poched. Those tiny yolks get hard so quickly when you boil them and I really like dipping my toast in runny yolk. Once the yolk takes solid form, breakfast is ruined. \*\* Plus, you need a -really- small frying pan to fry them in. Am I the only person who thinks that the OP was a sarcastic dig at Trolls? ---
**Author:** ![Greyson3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/258eb7/32.png) [@Greyson3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greyson3)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/163 "2003-07-20T04:03:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lezlers \* > \*\*[http://www.cleanse.net/mucoid\_plaque.HTM](http://www.cleanse.net/mucoid_plaque.HTM) > > \*\* Uh. I don’t think that is a very good cite. This fellow does not have it together. Why is it so difficult for some people to just admit that they enjoy enemas? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/164 "2003-07-20T04:19:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Greyson3 \* > **Uh. I don’t think that is a very good cite. This fellow does not have it together.** You’re not kidding. Here’s a gem: > [@](#): > > The condition of the colons in this entire country are FAR WORSE than either the doctors, the AMA, the Drug houses,…or even the Natural Health industry have any conception…and believe in our theory that the CAUSE OF MOST CONDITIONS OF ILL HEALTH IS AUTOINTOXICA-TION and that 95% of their troubles start in the colon. We can prove that we can find hardened mucous with its foul smelling curd in the colons of 95% of the entire nation. HOW DO WE KNOW THIS? Because possibly 99% of all ages and sexes have violated two of the major Natural Laws from one to three times every day since they were 2 years old. What are the two laws? 1. The WRONG combination of foods. 2. The constant daily use of tremendous amounts of DEAD FOODS. What the almighty fuck are dead foods? I mean really. Fine, be a vegan, if you must, but for Og’s sake, don’t be a fruitcake too. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f07891/32.png) [@Little\_Plastic\_Ninja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Plastic_Ninja)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/165 "2003-07-20T04:48:38Z")
Hrm. Maybe everything that’s not yoghurt? ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/166 "2003-07-20T05:07:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by prisoner6655321 \* > **No meat, no dairy, no eggs, no mayo, no gelatin, no spread that might have eggs, gelatin, meat, or dairy.** You know, just because someone is in the food service industry doesn’t mean they know the specifics to everyones fucked up diet. Next time maybe they should just give you a nice box of dirt to eat. Oh, wait…that might have worm shit in it. Is worm shit an animal product?😛 ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/167 "2003-07-20T05:12:47Z")
I have read through all 4 pages of this thing. I’m shocked that nobody has commented on this- > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\* > (And I don’t think swallowing semen is disgusting.) \*\* It was a good week, and this was a marvellous capping stone. I visited a friend I hadn’t seen in a few months, saw Xanadu at a free outdoor showing, bought some Micronauts, took a looong walk through downtown Philly by night, and now this. It does leave me with two questions though- Should I make it my new sig line? and, of course How you doin? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2003, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/168 "2003-07-20T05:34:01Z")
Hey, **Mama Tiger** , if your cow-orker’s Scary Green Stuff[sup]TM[/sup] looked substantially like [this](http://www.happycookers.com/wc.dll/recipes/divulge/1197.html), then Spirulina is likely what it was. ---
**Author:** ![Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Wonko\_The\_Sane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wonko_The_Sane)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/169 "2003-07-21T02:46:38Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kaylasdad99 \* > \*\*Hey, **Mama Tiger** , if your cow-orker’s Scary Green Stuff[sup]TM[/sup] looked substantially like [this](http://www.happycookers.com/wc.dll/recipes/divulge/1197.html), then Spirulina is likely what it was. \*\* EEEeeeewww! Nothing that color should -ever- be eaten on purpose. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/170 "2003-07-21T03:09:48Z")
Eeew! It looks like melted turds! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/171 "2003-07-21T03:17:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Eeew! It looks like melted turds! \*\* ummmm. . . I’m so happy I could enhance your experience of the SDMB today. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/172 "2003-07-21T03:30:10Z")
I’ve been a vegetarian for 17 years. I feel that makes me quite qualified to say that to most people “vegetarian” means “no meat” and that’s all. They most certainly do NOT assume it means “no animal products” --you’re just flat out 100% wrong in saying that they do. Vegetarian meal = one with no pieces of animals in it. Vegan meal = one with no animal-related things in it. Ask for a vegan meal if that is what you want! By all means, world, do not listen to this person and start making all vegetarian things vegan by default! Some of us LIKE our cheese, etc., thank you very much! I run the vegetarian community on LiveJournal and also the website [www.vegetarianstuff.com](http://www.vegetarianstuff.com) and I speak from a position of experience when I say that people like you DRIVE THE REST OF US VEGETARIANS CRAZY!!! You make people hate vegetarians. You make our lives much more difficult. PLEASE OBTAIN A CLUE and carry it with you at all times. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/173 "2003-07-21T03:45:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Skopo \* > \*\* I’ve noticed on airplanes, though, if you ask for a “vegetarian” meal, they will provide you a purely vegan meal. When I was vegetarian, I learned to ask for a “lacto-ovo” meal so that I could at least get the cheese that I desired. \*\* Do most airlines do this? Have lacto-ovo meals available, I mean? I’ll have to remember to ask next time I fly… I always assumed that since the vegetarian meal is the most bland and lame vegan fare imaginable that they only had the one vegetarian option. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/174 "2003-07-21T03:53:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Leaper \* > \*\* Don’t the feelings of the cheese-loving vegetarians count? What’s the point of having the different labels in the first place if you blur the lines that way? \*\* This just made me giggle because the term “cheese-loving” just seems like it’s meant to be a euphamistic explative. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/175 "2003-07-21T03:56:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*Ferrous: That’s hilarious. He’s whining about eggs being “sort of like killing,” but he eats cheese! IIRC, cheese has rennet in it & rennet’s _exactly_ like killing! \*\* Just for the sake of clarity: only some cheese has rennet. It varies by type of cheese and by brand. (Cabot extra sharp cheddar has no rennet! And it’s also the Most Perfect Substance On Earth!) …man… now I want some Cabot extra sharp cheddar… –Opal, cheese-loving vegetarian ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/176 "2003-07-21T04:01:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Arnold Winkelried \* > \*\* Why not skip the egg and dairy products altogether and make it vegan? I’m sure it’s possible to make a sandwich without mayonnaise or cheese that is very good. \*\* Because the vast majority of vegetarians DO eat cheese and most eat eggs as well\*. And most LIKE them. If you were to poll 100 vegetarians about which sandwich they would prefer, one with cheese and mayo or one without, the one with cheese and mayo would win, I guarantee it. So, from a business perspective, you’d make more of your vegetarian customers happy with the cheese and mayo sammich. It’s not unreasonable to expect the vegan folk to order a more specific sandwich. \*I’m not just pulling this out of my ass either (here, smell it, you’ll see!) I’ve run polls in my vegetarian communities and lacto-ovo comes out waaaay on top. ---
**Author:** ![lezlers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@lezlers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lezlers)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/177 "2003-07-21T04:52:18Z")
Not to mention the fact that there’s a lot more vegetarians in the world than vegans. They’re just more common. And I’m speaking as a vegan here. And any vegan who has an ounce of common sense (insert all vegans being loony joke here) know to specify “no dairy products” in their meals. I usually just say I’m lactose intolerant in order to avoid yet _another_ debate or lengthy explanation of my dietary choices that the majority of meat eaters feel entitled to. ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 9:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/178 "2003-07-21T09:23:12Z")
For the record, you don’t just have to do a detox to cleanse the bowels. As it happens, I, for one, have never been convinced by that whole nasty-bowel argument anyway. The fact is that over the course of an average day, people put an astonishing amount of crap into their body. Surely noone really argues with the idea that “you are what you eat”? The human body never evolved to deal with the kind of chemicals over the kind of sustained time period that we throw at it these days. Maybe, coincidentally, it can deal with it. I don’t know. But it seems to me that the default hypothesis is that it cannot, at least very well. Check out any system when you begin to throw pollutants into the mix. The pollutants begin to build up. After a while, they cause a problem. Why should the human body be any different. Therefore every three months or so, the **kabbess** and I spend 2-3 months eating, basically, nothing except for fresh, organic vegetables and fruit (plus a few other things, like pulses and tinned tomatoes. I’m not giving a comprehensive list). I generally find that after a couple of weeks, my cravings for junk food crap disappears and I actively start to _want_ to eat fruit as a snack, for example. At that point you’re generally eating at least 5-10 pieces of fruit a day. The whole thing, obviously, should be combined with a decent exercise regime (although I try to follow this anyway)/ Either way, you certainly lose weight, become more toned and just feel much better. It’s astonishing, for example, how much more energy you have. I always know its detox time when I get to the point that I’m just tired all the time. Now to focus on some of the loonier explanations as to why one might detox and just discredit that (or claim that there is no proof) is really to miss the point. The basic concept – that stuffing your bodies with chemicals that it never evolved to deal with is not a good thing – is eminently reasonable. I generally find that those who seek to rubbish the whole idea are just those who can’t cope with the cognitive dissonance that surely if it _were_ a good idea then _they_ would be doing it too? Well face it – just because the idea might seem too hard for you to do, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have merit. pan ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/179 "2003-07-21T10:04:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kabbes \* > **The basic concept – that stuffing your bodies with chemicals that it never evolved to deal with is not a good thing – is eminently reasonable.** This concept is clearly flawed beyond any salvaging. Succesful research in Scotland has clearly shown that a diet high in processed meats, saturated fats and artificial additives is the only way to guarantee a massive, fatal heart attack by your mid forties. The diet you propose kabbes is likely to lead to a life span well past this, and perhaps into your 70’s or even 80’s. This leaves you completely open to such long term fears as smelling of cabbage, having to save money in a pension rather than blowing it all on toys now, and being ridiculed by people much younger than you. Is this really the fate you desire? Please kabbes, I beg you, reconsider and have a bacon sarnie. ---
**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2003, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259/180 "2003-07-21T10:20:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by prisoner6655321 \* > \*\*Anyway, they should assume that vegetarian means vegan because they weren’t specifically told that it didn’t. \*\* No, they shouldn’t. Case closed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-boxed-lunch-is-a-lie/189259.md?page=10)