# Vegetarian readers and the leatherbound book dilemma **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 6, 2002, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462 "2002-05-06T01:53:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/81 "2002-05-08T01:34:03Z")
Well, _this_ thread is a train wreck. Are we allowed to sell the pieces off as scrap? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/82 "2002-05-08T01:52:12Z")
Jesus. Channeling Ingrid Newkirk? **Opal** , I like you and consider you a friend here, but the Holocaust comparison was completely offensive and disgusting. One of my aunt’s dearest friends is a man who was in Auschwitz. Fuck that shit. ---
**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/83 "2002-05-08T02:14:16Z")
**1.** > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OpalCat \* > The objections to the lampshades and the book are of the same type, yet different degrees. No, they are not of the same type. The first is a crime against humanity, the very epitome of human evil. The second is a dead cow. You are perfectly welcome to object to the killing of the cow, but it is incredibly fucking disgusting to equate, in even the slightest way, the book on my shelf with an emblem of the murder of six million people. **2.** Your comments to **Darwin’s Finch** were rude in the extreme, even apart from the misundestanding about the ignore function. _Nothing_ he said to you was anything other than the legitimate questioning of the non-obvious assumptions your OP asked us to make about what it means to be a “vegetarian.” If you don’t want your personal ethos to be open to well-mannered questioning, what the fuck are you doing at this message board? **3.** > [@](#): > > This board disappoints me more and more every day recently. Bye, Opal. ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/84 "2002-05-08T02:21:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OpalCat \* > \*\* They are inextricably linked and it is quite a fair assumption to make that vegetarians won’t buy leather. Some will, but many if not most will avoid it and quite a few will get mad at you for even suggesting it. > > I’ve been a vegetarian for 16 years and I think I can say that I know the vegetarian mindset and community a bit better than you, Darwin. \ There is a longstanding and neverending vegetarian/leather “issue” whether you want to believe it or not. \*\* Let me preface this post by saying that you are totally entitled to have whatever opinion you like about food, books, shoes and whatever else, and you certainly don’t have to justify any of it to me or anyone else, but… Colour me confused. I have been a “vegetarian” for 12 years. I have friends that are vegetarian to varying degrees, I belong to a vegetarian cooking club. I know quite a few vegetarians. I don’t actually know _any_ that eschew the use of animal products to the degree that you’re suggesting. I do know 2 vegans that are reluctant to use any sort of animal product, however, vintage books don’t seem to be an issue. This is not to say that there are _NO_ vegetarians that feel the same way that you do about the issue, but your assertion that there is some sort of vegetarian community “issue” seems a bit far fetched. I’m sure that in your vegetarian community, your friends and peers share your belief - I don’t think it’s fair to extrapolate those beliefs to the vegetarian community as a whole though. Also, (and you certainly don’t have to justify yourself to me) I’m curious how you can eat eggs, feeling as strongly as you do about the whole animal issue. Eggs are pretty clearly lil baby chickens that never got a chance, which to me is quite nasty. FYI - I put vegetarian in quotes up above because once in a blue moon I will eat shellfish, which is quite clearly not a vegetable. That being said, the majority of members of my cooking club do not. Additionally, I will cook meat for guests (Never, ever pork - don’t get me started), I just don’t eat it - not really my cup of tea. Al. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/85 "2002-05-08T02:27:02Z")
BTW, if I’m not mistaken, didn’t PETA do a project where they collected vintage fur coats and distributed them among the homeless, or the poor? ---
**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/86 "2002-05-08T02:47:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by erislover \* > \*\*Well, _this_ thread is a train wreck. Are we allowed to sell the pieces off as scrap? \*\* I can’t help but think that I am that section of track where the rails were just a _wee_ bit too far apart, causing the train to careen into the gully, resulting in the horrific carnage you see before you. But then, it probably didn’t help that the engineer was drunk… At least there were survivors, so it wasn’t a total loss. ---
**Author:** ![ApeHead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/977dab/32.png) [@ApeHead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ApeHead)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/87 "2002-05-08T02:58:37Z")
Okay, I’m a little confused. A vegetarian posts a question relating to “vegetarian ehtics” addressing fellow vegetarians in a forum called “The BBQ Pit?” Does anyone else see the irony here? ---
**Author:** ![blur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dbc845/32.png) [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/88 "2002-05-08T03:05:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ApeHead \* > \*\*Okay, I’m a little confused. A vegetarian posts a question relating to “vegetarian ehtics” addressing fellow vegetarians in a forum called “The BBQ Pit?” Does anyone else see the irony here? \*\* If it helps, the thread was orignally in another forum, Cafe Society I think. ---
**Author:** ![milroyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@milroyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/milroyj)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/89 "2002-05-08T05:31:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by alice\_in\_wonderland \* > \*\* > I’m curious how you can eat eggs, feeling as strongly as you do about the whole animal issue. Eggs are pretty clearly lil baby chickens that never got a chance, which to me is quite nasty. > > \*\* I’m going to phrase this as carefully as my little mind will allow, because I don’t want’ to flame anyone. How do Vegetarians, in general, feel about abortion? After all, if to eat “potential chickens” is wrong, then human abortion is what, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/90 "2002-05-08T07:46:27Z")
> [@](#): > > How do Vegetarians, in general, feel about abortion? After all, if to eat “potential chickens” is wrong, then human abortion is what, exactly? IANAV, but given that both eggs and human fetuses are deliberately created as food sources for omnivores, the matter is largely about portion control. ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/91 "2002-05-08T08:22:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by OpalCat \* > **I am ovo-lacto vegetarian.** No, you’re a fucking idiot. And here’s why: > [@](#): > > \*\*As for the old leather issue… would you buy a lampshade made of a holocaust victim’s skin? It isn’t hurting anyone new, but the concept is repulsive and you don’t want to “be the kind of person who has those things” most likely. \*\* … I really, _really_ don’t know what to say. Wow. That is the tackiest analogy EVER. > [@](#): > > **This board disappoints me more and more every day recently.** After **that** stunt, I’m sure the feeling’s mutual, dear. :walks off in disgust: ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2002, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462/92 "2002-05-08T09:10:53Z")
Enough shit has been slung. I’m disgusted with the lot of you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vegetarian-readers-and-the-leatherbound-book-dilemma/107462.md?page=4)