# Verdict in Anthony Trial to be announced at 2:15 Eastern **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 5, 2011, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917 "2011-07-05T17:59:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/41 "2011-07-05T19:22:45Z")
> [@PetW](#): > > It’s really hard to say, she clearly seems to be a psychopath based on how much she lied and didn’t seem concerned at all that her kid just died. If she can accidently kill her kid without a care in the world, is it really a stretch that she murdered her kid? I don’t think anybody doubts that she’s capable of murdering her kid but there’s no real _proof_. They can’t even prove how Caylee died, let alone who did it. ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/42 "2011-07-05T19:30:23Z")
I completely agree Sampiro, I was just responding to MOIDALIZE’s post about what he thinks really happened. ---
**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/43 "2011-07-05T19:44:54Z")
As much as it pains me, an acquittal was the correct decision legally. Now, I think she killed her daughter. But we don’t convict people based on feelings. The prosecution didn’t present any real evidence linking her to the crime. So she walks. Blame the police and prosecutors. ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/44 "2011-07-05T19:51:09Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > Blame the police and prosecutors. I think the prosecutors did a great job with what they had. ---
**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/45 "2011-07-05T19:55:49Z")
That was a tough case to prosecute. If there had been a way to establish the cause of death, I’m confident the prosecution would have presented it. I do question the need to scientifically establish the source of smells from the trunk; didn’t seem to add anything to the case. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/46 "2011-07-05T19:59:13Z")
> [@mozchron](#): > > Blame the police and prosecutors. Why? Is it not possible that the crime (or accident, or whatever occurred) simply didn’t produce any durable evidence which an ethical, competent police and prosecution could use to make a definitive case? Maybe her daughter died in a terrible accident as the defense suggested and the defendant had a very bizarre reaction to it that included not bringing it to the attention of authorities, or maybe she murdered her daughter for whatever imaginable reason. Sometimes we just don’t discover a clear answer to these things, and the police aren’t necessarily incompetent for not being able to prove it either way. For those of us who haven’t been watching with baited breath at home, what convincing evidence did the police produce that the girl was actually murdered? ---
**Author:** ![AntiCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@AntiCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AntiCoyote)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/47 "2011-07-05T20:00:39Z")
I wonder if it had been the father and exactly the same evidence if the verdict would’ve been guilty. And you don’t have to prove beyond a doubt someone is guilty just a reasonable doubt. There’s a difference. I’ve worked with ex-cons and I’ve seen a lot go up with a lot less evidence than this. This is why the justice system is so unfair. But then again, life isn’t fair is it? Look at Kyron Horman, no one is getting prosecuted, because whoever did it found a good hiding place for the body. But OK I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and say it was an accident and she was too high from partying to do the right thing and she started making things up. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/48 "2011-07-05T20:01:47Z")
Maybe they can get a mistrial on the grounds the jurors were too distracted by that guy flipping a bird. Or if perhaps a juror will admit they voted to acquit just to piss off Nancy Grace. Are there any laws that bar a juror from talking about a criminal case after it’s over? If not I’m expecting some to come forward with “We think she’s guilty as hell but it wasn’t proven” very soon. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/49 "2011-07-05T20:02:21Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > Why? Is it not possible that the crime (or accident, or whatever occurred) simply didn’t produce any durable evidence which an ethical, competent police and prosecution could use to make a definitive case? Then why prosecute? ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/50 "2011-07-05T20:03:04Z")
My personal theory: She’s probably guilty of manslaughter. I think she tried, as **MODIALIZE** suggested, to sedate the kid so she could go party. And she accidentally OD’d the kid. And Daddy, the excop, basically coached her or helped her make sure there wasn’t enough tangible evidence to convict. I don’t think he did it, but I think he did help cover it up. And there may not be enough/any evidence of that to even indict. ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/51 "2011-07-05T20:03:10Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Are there any laws that bar a juror from talking about a criminal case after it’s over? If not I’m expecting some to come forward with “We think she’s guilty as hell but it wasn’t proven” very soon. Nope, the judge specifically said that they can talk about it if they so choose. They received media packets and could’ve attended the news conference just now, but the spokesperson told the media that the jurors will contact them if they wish to come forward. ---
**Author:** ![AntiCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a587f6/32.png) [@AntiCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AntiCoyote)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/52 "2011-07-05T20:04:19Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > Maybe her daughter died in a terrible accident as the defense suggested and the defendant had a very bizarre reaction to it that included not bringing it to the attention of authorities, or maybe she murdered her daughter for whatever imaginable reason. Sometimes we just don’t discover a clear answer to these things, and the police aren’t necessarily incompetent for not being able to prove it either way. This is another problem with blame shifting. The police will simply get off by claiming it’s not their job to prove anything. Merely to collect evidence and it’s the DA’s job to convict based on what they found. The DA will say, the police didn’t give them anything worthwhile. ---
**Author:** ![Dogzilla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@Dogzilla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogzilla)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/53 "2011-07-05T20:05:36Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Maybe they can get a mistrial on the grounds the jurors were too distracted by that guy flipping a bird. Or if perhaps a juror will admit they voted to acquit just to piss off Nancy Grace. > > Are there any laws that bar a juror from talking about a criminal case after it’s over? If not I’m expecting some to come forward with “We think she’s guilty as hell but it wasn’t proven” very soon. No. In fact, I distinctly heard the judge telling the jury that they enjoyed certain rights because of their jury service. One of those rights was they cannot be compelled to talk about anything relating to the case except in a court of law. They are also not bound by a gag order. Basically, he was saying, “You don’t \*have \*to keep your mouth shut, but you don’t have to say jack either.” ---
**Author:** ![Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/6bbea6/32.png) [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Living_Well_Is_Best_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/54 "2011-07-05T20:09:51Z")
> [@AntiCoyote](#): > > I wonder if it had been the father and exactly the same evidence if the verdict would’ve been guilty. > > And you don’t have to prove beyond a doubt someone is guilty just a reasonable doubt. There’s a difference. > > I’ve worked with ex-cons and I’ve seen a lot go up with a lot less evidence than this. > > This is why the justice system is so unfair. But then again, life isn’t fair is it? > > Look at Kyron Horman, no one is getting prosecuted, because whoever did it found a good hiding place for the body. > > But OK I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and say it was an accident and she was too high from partying to do the right thing and she started making things up. If it was a man on trial, he would have been convicted, in my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/55 "2011-07-05T20:11:11Z")
The only thing I want to know is how many more months will it be before I will stop being inundated with Casey Frickin’ Anthony stories. I’ve done my best to ignore this case from the get-go, as, to me, it seems like it was just the case that was picked to be popular. There are probably 100 other cases going on in this country right now which are just as intriguing, or convoluted, or heartbreaking or whatever … so why is this basket-case getting all the ink? Guilty? Not-Guilty? I gotta be honest, at this point I’m just happy that it’s something. Get this waste of electrons off my internet now, okay? Chee-rist. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/56 "2011-07-05T21:11:16Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > Exactly. Trash like this will commit another crime for sure. Like Amy Fisher did? ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/57 "2011-07-05T22:29:20Z")
Wow, Jeff Ashton just announced his retirement. What a way to go out. I was amazed at how emotionally charged he was throughout the trial. This case must’ve taken a lot out of him. He really wiped the floor with Jose Baez when it came to objections and cross examinations. ---
**Author:** ![badlyburnttoast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@badlyburnttoast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/badlyburnttoast)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/58 "2011-07-05T22:33:46Z")
> [@Living\_Well\_Is\_Best\_Revenge](#): > > If it was a man on trial, he would have been convicted, in my opinion. This is my opinion too. Exact same situation but with a male (or a minority female) and she’d have been convicted in an instant. She got off because she’s young, pretty, and white - no doubt in my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/59 "2011-07-05T23:22:57Z")
Female, young, pretty, and white- just like OJ Simpson. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917/60 "2011-07-05T23:33:10Z")
It wouldn’t be too bad if someone arranged an “accident” for her. “Vigilantism” would be justified in this case/ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verdict-in-anthony-trial-to-be-announced-at-2-15-eastern/587917.md?page=4)