# Verizon Slaps AT&T with a Phallic Fleshy Object. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [February 4, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151 "2011-02-04T15:03:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/1 "2011-02-04T15:03:30Z")
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**Author:** ![postcards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8e8cbc/32.png) [@postcards](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/postcards)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/2 "2011-02-04T15:17:16Z")
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/3 "2011-02-04T16:30:13Z")
> [@postcards](#): > > šŸ˜• AT&Tā€™s network problems with the iphone (in some markets) have been [notorious](http://news.cnet.com/8301-30686_3-20030571-266.html), and some iphone users may get more out of their phones if they switch networks. > [@](#): > > Initial reviews of the iPhone on Verizonā€™s network have been good. CNET Reviews editors Kent German and Jessica Dolcourt gave the device on Verizonā€™s network high marks compared with AT&T when tested in various parts of San Francisco. > The full CNET review, published today, says the Verizon iPhone consistently outperformed the AT&T iPhone in all but two tests. That said, German and Dolcourt warn potential iPhone customers that results may vary depending on a userā€™s exact location. > But in San Francisco, where the AT&T iPhone often suffers from poor network performance and dropped calls, the Verizon iPhone performed very well. For the most part, Verizon blazed through AT&Tā€™s upload and download speeds, according to the Root Metrics tool that the reviewers used. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/4 "2011-02-04T16:49:51Z")
Everybody seems to think Verizon is so amazing. Every house Iā€™ve lived in since I had a phone(5 places or so) have had crappy Verizon service. None of these were out in the sticks, only 2 could be considered a little out of town. While it seems I get decent service outside of civilization, which is everywhere around here, I canā€™t get rid of my landline because my home service always sucks. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/5 "2011-02-04T16:54:00Z")
Before I got too excited, Iā€™d wait to see what happens when Verizonā€™s network gets loaded up. Theyā€™ll possibly still test out better than AT&T, but itā€™s pretty easy to get good numbers when there are only a handful of devices on the SF network (I donā€™t think the iPhone is GA for Verizon yet, is it?). Joe ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/6 "2011-02-04T17:31:26Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Before I got too excited, Iā€™d wait to see what happens when Verizonā€™s network gets loaded up. Theyā€™ll possibly still test out better than AT&T, but itā€™s pretty easy to get good numbers when there are only a handful of devices on the SF network (I donā€™t think the iPhone is GA for Verizon yet, is it?). > > Joe I have a Droid on Verizon, and have never had a dropped call issue. The Times review yesterday mentioned that the reviewer drove around several cities with an AT&T iPhone and a Verizon iPhone both connected to MovieLine (which seems to never shut up.) The AT&T phone dropped calls multiple times, the Verizon one never. ---
**Author:** ![Yorikke](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yorikke/32/4335_2.png) [@Yorikke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yorikke)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/7 "2011-02-04T18:58:18Z")
What am I missing? We all know (really) that AT&T is worse than Verizon. I honestly was expecting some kind of subliminal dildo-smack. My guess is **postcards** was as well. Why does this thread even exist, if not for the dildos? Joe ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/8 "2011-02-04T19:17:12Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > The AT&T phone dropped calls multiple times, the Verizon one never. Yes, but no one has a Verizon iPhone yet. Of course Verizonā€™s better _now_; we want to know if it will be better once several millions people jump to Verizon when the iPhone comes out. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/9 "2011-02-04T19:21:58Z")
They wonā€™t be. AT&T was the absolute top dog in networking before the iPhone. Then millions of fanboys and technophiles alike went to AT&T for the iPhone and all those people crashed the network. Same thing will happen with Verizon. Mark my words. ---
**Author:** ![Ian\_D.Bergkamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Ian\_D.Bergkamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ian_D.Bergkamp)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/10 "2011-02-04T19:41:54Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > They wonā€™t be. AT&T was the absolute top dog in networking before the iPhone. Then millions of fanboys and technophiles alike went to AT&T for the iPhone and all those people crashed the network. Same thing will happen with Verizon. Mark my words. So I can expect that the shift of users from AT&T to Verizon will improve AT&Tā€™s performance for its remaining customers (namely, me)? ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/11 "2011-02-04T20:05:30Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > They wonā€™t be. AT&T was the absolute top dog in networking before the iPhone. Meh, I donā€™t know about that. I know itā€™s only one data point, but AT&T service was nonexistent in my town when I moved out here in 2002 (and this is nowhere near the sticks, either). Iā€™m not talking intermittent service, bad service, or spotty service, Iā€™m talking NO service. When AT&T found out where Iā€™d moved to _they actually waived the remainder of my contract_. So Iā€™m not particularly impressed by that claim. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/12 "2011-02-04T20:10:57Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > Meh, I donā€™t know about that. I know itā€™s only one data point, but AT&T service was nonexistent in my town when I moved out here in 2002 (and this is nowhere near the sticks, either). Iā€™m not talking intermittent service, bad service, or spotty service, Iā€™m talking NO service. When AT&T found out where Iā€™d moved to _they actually waived the remainder of my contract_. So Iā€™m not particularly impressed by that claim. Thatā€™s an artifact of how wireless spectrum was auctioned. There were two(?) carriers in each market, and various companies bid for the rights to provide service. If AT&T (or one of the companies theyā€™ve bought) wasnā€™t a winner where you are, no service (remember roaming charges?). Iā€™d guess there are agreements in place to carry each others traffic, but if you landed somewhere with no other company sharing with AT&T, then itā€™s in their interest to let you out of the contract - bad PR if nothing else (and potentially a state or FCC regulation mandating it). Joe ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/13 "2011-02-04T20:17:08Z")
> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#): > > Yes, but no one has a Verizon iPhone yet. Of course Verizonā€™s better _now_; we want to know if it will be better once several millions people jump to Verizon when the iPhone comes out. So, you think a Verizon iPhone works on a different network from the Verizon Android based phone? Like I said, I have a Verizon Droid, and it has never dropped a call. It also worked fine in the middle of San Francisco. ---
**Author:** ![Labrador\_Deceiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@Labrador\_Deceiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labrador_Deceiver)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/14 "2011-02-04T20:25:38Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > So, you think a Verizon iPhone works on a different network from the Verizon Android based phone? > Like I said, I have a Verizon Droid, and it has never dropped a call. It also worked fine in the middle of San Francisco. What? Of course your service is good now. Heā€™s talking about what will happen to the network when it suddenly grows by a couple million users. He said nothing about Android or iPhone working on two different networks. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/15 "2011-02-04T21:02:10Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Thatā€™s an artifact of how wireless spectrum was auctioned. There were two(?) carriers in each market, and various companies bid for the rights to provide service. If AT&T (or one of the companies theyā€™ve bought) wasnā€™t a winner where you are, no service (remember roaming charges?). > > Iā€™d guess there are agreements in place to carry each others traffic, but if you landed somewhere with no other company sharing with AT&T, then itā€™s in their interest to let you out of the contract - bad PR if nothing else (and potentially a state or FCC regulation mandating it). > > Joe The other thing is that the carriers use different technologies; GSM vs CDMA, so you canā€™t roam from AT&T to Verizon (for example). In Europe, as I understand it, everyone uses GSM so roaming is easier. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/16 "2011-02-04T21:40:00Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > So, you think a Verizon iPhone works on a different network from the Verizon Android based phone? Well, kind of. Your Droid is on the current Verizon network. The iPhone will be on the current Verizon network **with** a bajillion more smartphones suddenly added to it. The network will probably be the same, and thatā€™s actually the problem. People want the iPhone, and people have also heard pretty much nothing bad bad things about AT&T. The result of which will be thousands of San Franciscans buying Verizon iPhones and suddenly crowding onto Verizonā€™s network all at once, which will slow everything down for you. ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/17 "2011-02-04T21:58:05Z")
> [@I'm Not Dennis Bergkamp](#): > > So I can expect that the shift of users from AT&T to Verizon will improve AT&Tā€™s performance for its remaining customers (namely, me)? Are you kidding? This is AT&T. They will conclude that all the customers who stick with them have been successfully conditioned to accept lousy service, and cap your data rates to whatever youā€™re getting now. Then, in 6 months, theyā€™ll offer an ā€œupgradeā€ to your service for an extra fee that will allow you to access half of the performance improvement. (Theyā€™ll reserve the other half for potential future ā€œupgradesā€ā€¦and just to be jerks.) ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/18 "2011-02-04T23:40:47Z")
> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#): > > Well, kind of. Your Droid is on the current Verizon network. The iPhone will be on the current Verizon network **with** a bajillion more smartphones suddenly added to it. > > The network will probably be the same, and thatā€™s actually the problem. People want the iPhone, and people have also heard pretty much nothing bad bad things about AT&T. The result of which will be thousands of San Franciscans buying Verizon iPhones and suddenly crowding onto Verizonā€™s network all at once, which will slow everything down for you. In the last year and a half or so a bajillion people moved from dumb phones to smartphones on the Verizon network - with no loss of quality, as far as I could tell. Verizon was able to manage that not totally expected jump in usage, I see no reason to think they couldnā€™t manage this more expected one. Iā€™m getting the feeling that iPhone users think that no other phone can download pictures or movies or websites or Youtube. We Android users can hog bandwidth too! ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/19 "2011-02-05T00:08:55Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > In the last year and a half or so a bajillion people moved from dumb phones to smartphones on the Verizon network - with no loss of quality, as far as I could tell. Verizon was able to manage that not totally expected jump in usage, I see no reason to think they couldnā€™t manage this more expected one. > > Iā€™m getting the feeling that iPhone users think that no other phone can download pictures or movies or websites or Youtube. We Android users can hog bandwidth too! iPhone users do use 1.5 times the data the average smart phone user does. Not a ton more, but more, on average. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151/20 "2011-02-05T00:13:36Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Iā€™m getting the feeling that iPhone users think that no other phone can download pictures or movies or websites or Youtube. We Android users can hog bandwidth too! Hey, Iā€™m well aware. I just installed FroYo on my G1. And yeah, more people are using smartphones across all networks every day (and Iā€™d argue that thatā€™s entirely expected), but the iPhone, for lack of a better word, transcends that. People LOVE that fucker. LOVE IT. I mean, Iā€™ve definitely learned to love the Android OS, but my mom, two years later still calls it my ā€œiPhone thingy.ā€ Appleā€™s Reality Distortion Field is a real thing. And now itā€™s available on a network thatā€™s not AT&T, so on 2/9 or whenever it comes out, there will be thousands upon thousands of new data hogs jumping onto your network at 9am that morning. I mean, itā€™s possible that Verizon truly has prepared for this and has built some kind of insane infrastructure for it, but history has not shown that to be likely. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/verizon-slaps-at-t-with-a-phallic-fleshy-object/570151.md?page=2)