# Veronic Mars 11/28 (Open Spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 29, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199 "2006-11-29T15:35:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/41 "2006-11-30T18:39:46Z")
Remember when Dean O’Dell helped kidnap Richard Grieco and _steal his bone marrow_? If that’s the way the Dean did business, he might have a whole list of enemies missing various kidneys or corneas or whatever! I doubt it was any of the Lilith House girls. That just seems to obvious, with the constant egging and spitting. The cheating wife might have motive, or maybe Professor Sleazo decided to off the Dean using Veronica’s “Perfect Murder” plan. I don’t know why he would bother though. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/42 "2006-11-30T18:47:54Z")
I probably need to spoiler box this I read that the second MOTS which we now know to be the Dean’s killing was heavily inspired by the movie Bubble. So you can try to keep that in mind as this unfolds. Maybe there isn’t much of a great motive involved. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/43 "2006-11-30T18:49:32Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Veronica acts smart 90% of the time but amazingly the 10% of the time where she fucks up it’s almost always in a season finale (or like last night, mini-finale) and she falls right into the tired old “damsel in distress” routine and it pisses me off! S1 climax, she gets herself locked in a fridge and has to be rescued by Keith. [/QUOTE] Your larger point is well-taken, but the S1 climax isn’t an example of it. When she discovered Aaron had stowed away in the LeBaron, she crashed it, which is just what she should have done. Then she ran to the nearest house and hid all three tapes, which is also what she should have done. After that the situation was taken beyond her control. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/44 "2006-11-30T19:04:16Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] I guess she was in a hurry and didn’t come up with a better plan, but pulling the dorm’s fire alarm also would have stopped everything. [/QUOTE] Thank you, that was the other thing that pissed me off. There were fire alarms all up and down the dorm walls and no one pulled one. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/45 "2006-11-30T19:16:39Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] Accepting that TV isn’t the real world, what has O’Dell done that warrants killing him? Who gains by his death? I’m not seeing a reasonable motive from any of the possible suspects. [/QUOTE] The only suspect I can see with a material gain is the professor who is sleeping with the Dean’s wife. He could gain the wife, who possibly will get some life insurance money. The other suspects merely have a grudge against him. Although the Dean announced publicly that he would vote to keep the greeks, maybe he didn’t get a chance to officially make that vote yet - maybe the committe hasn’t convened yet - and his death would keep that from happening. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_A_Tame_Lion)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/46 "2006-11-30T20:26:57Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] Wasn’t the bullethole in Dean O’Dell’s temple, like a suicide? I know he was murdered, but the position of the body seems to imply that not only was he sitting there talking with his murderer, but the murderer got up close to fire the shot. He appeared to have powder burns on his temple around the wound. Maybe he was unconscious or nearly so, allowing the killer to shoot him and have it look like a suicide at first glance. [/QUOTE] I was actually thinking it might be a suicide, given that O’Dell’s been such a constant target of animosity and humiliation. But it would be pretty cheeky for the show to set up a murder mystery, then reveal that, no, it was just a suicide after all. Still, something to “put on the board.” ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/47 "2006-11-30T20:34:40Z")
[QUOTE=Eleanor of Aquitaine] The only suspect I can see with a material gain is the professor who is sleeping with the Dean’s wife. He could gain the wife, who possibly will get some life insurance money. The other suspects merely have a grudge against him. Although the Dean announced publicly that he would vote to keep the greeks, maybe he didn’t get a chance to officially make that vote yet - maybe the committe hasn’t convened yet - and his death would keep that from happening. [/QUOTE] I had wondered if it was Patty Hearst’s character. After all she went through to vote ‘no’ on the Greek’s, it’d be annoying to have it overturned. Other than that, it doesn’t make sense for her to do it, so I expect to be wrong. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/48 "2006-11-30T21:31:30Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Thank you, that was the other thing that pissed me off. There were fire alarms all up and down the dorm walls and no one pulled one. [/QUOTE] I wondered why she didn’t call 911, instead of her dad, who “never answers.” Does a bullet in the temple leave a neat hole like that? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/49 "2006-11-30T21:44:54Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] I wondered why she didn’t call 911, instead of her dad, who “never answers.” [/quote] If you were Veronica would you call Sheriff Dumbass? Even in a drugged stupor she’s smarter than relying on that tool for anything. But the more serious answer is that she was calling from Moe’s cellphone so that her dad would have the number, so Keith could use the cell phone tracker to find Mercer and Moe (remember them from vaudeville?) later. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/50 "2006-11-30T21:59:24Z")
[QUOTE=AuntiePam] Does a bullet in the temple leave a neat hole like that? [/QUOTE] On the way in, and depending on the caliber of the bullet, yes. The exit wound usually is a whole 'nother story. ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/51 "2006-12-04T15:40:40Z")
I just realized…Keith was the last person known to be with the Dean, and Weevil was the one who found him. Do y’all think either or both will be considered suspects by Lamb? ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/52 "2006-12-04T16:50:43Z")
[QUOTE=Fiver] I just realized…Keith was the last person known to be with the Dean, and Weevil was the one who found him. Do y’all think either or both will be considered suspects by Lamb? [/QUOTE] They’re poor and live in Neptune, right? As far as Lamb’s concerned, that’s probable cause. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_A_Tame_Lion)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2006, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199/53 "2006-12-04T18:15:12Z")
Actually, I think this may be the first time someone died in Neptune when Weevil _won’t_ be considered a suspect. I’m sure Weevil will report his find immediately, and that should absolve him. Then again, Sherriff Numbnuts might decide to be suspicious anyway. But it would be a stretch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronic-mars-11-28-open-spoilers/382199.md?page=2)