# Veronica Mars is cancelled **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 17, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473 "2007-05-17T16:50:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/21 "2007-05-18T02:23:36Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] Which is ridiculous, because he’s crazy good. [/QUOTE] Well, he _is_ a $cientologist. _wincing face_ ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/22 "2007-05-18T02:49:32Z")
First Arrested Development. Now Veronica Mars. (sigh) ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/23 "2007-05-18T14:20:33Z")
[QUOTE=kung fu lola] Well, he _is_ a $cientologist. _wincing face_ [/QUOTE] Which has fuck-all to do with his acting ability. ---
**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/24 "2007-05-18T14:58:53Z")
I can’t understand why this show didn’t pick up a large audience in its first season. It was easily one of the best four or five shows on TV. I won’t miss it, though, because season 3 was so lousy. I imagine that’s due to low morale. ---
**Author:** ![cbawlmer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cbawlmer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cbawlmer)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/25 "2007-05-18T15:50:31Z")
[QUOTE=kelly5078] I won’t miss it, though, because season 3 was so lousy. I imagine that’s due to low morale. [/QUOTE] There was tinkering from the network too. They wanted to try different things to see if they could bring in more viewers, so they had shorter mystery arcs, and in the end, no mystery arcs at all. So the show became the pale shadow of what it used to be, not enough new viewers tuned in, and some of its existing fans started tuning out. ---
**Author:** ![Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e36b37/32.png) [@Not\_A\_Tame\_Lion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Not_A_Tame_Lion)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/26 "2007-05-18T20:32:46Z")
Que sera sera, more free time for me. But I will miss it, mostly for what it used to be. It was nice while it lasted. ---
**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2007, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/27 "2007-05-18T20:44:00Z")
[QUOTE=Interrobang!?] I admit I’m curious about the hypothetical VM-as-FBI agent flash-forward, though, in part because I wish more series would consider something like that, rather than assuming they have to progress in more-or-less real time. [/QUOTE] That’s the widely rumored plan for a show that the CW _did_ renew: One Tree Hill. Instead of following the lead of 90210 and Dawson’s Creek etc to the inevitable “college years” seasons, they’re rumored to be skipping those years all together and going on to the characters’ 20s. I hope it’s true. I never got into Veronica Mars, but I feel for the fans (esp since OTH was removed all those weeks for the absurd Pussycat Dolls show too). Like Gilmore Girls it seemed like a good show, just not one that I found much interest in. ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/28 "2007-05-19T17:31:29Z")
[QUOTE=chrisk] Hijack - did you notice the little ‘message’ that was worked into the season 2 finale about the renewal, and what did you think of it? I never got a chance to see much of season 2 until September of last year, and I don’t get the CW anyway, so I think I can be excused for not clueing in until I read about it online. [/QUOTE] I forget exactly what the line was, but I did have a chuckle when I heard it, as if Rob Thomas were giving everybody a wink. Wasn’t it something like “CW? It’s a done deal” after Duncan calls Clarence? ---
**Author:** ![kung\_fu\_lola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f4b2a3/32.png) [@kung\_fu\_lola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kung_fu_lola)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2007, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/29 "2007-05-19T18:38:54Z")
[QUOTE=cbawlmer] Which has fuck-all to do with his acting ability. [/QUOTE] Of course, but PR people might see it as a liability these days. You can’t seriously think that media is ALL about quality and content\*. Image is crucial. \*Although in a perfect world it would be. ---
**Author:** ![Crawlspace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Crawlspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crawlspace)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2007, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/30 "2007-05-20T03:09:56Z")
[QUOTE=elfkin477] That’s the widely rumored plan for a show that the CW _did_ renew: One Tree Hill. Instead of following the lead of 90210 and Dawson’s Creek etc to the inevitable “college years” seasons, they’re rumored to be skipping those years all together and going on to the characters’ 20s. I hope it’s true. I never got into Veronica Mars, but I feel for the fans (esp since OTH was removed all those weeks for the absurd Pussycat Dolls show too). Like Gilmore Girls it seemed like a good show, just not one that I found much interest in. [/QUOTE] That’d be a great idea for One Tree Hill. College friends are good times, but it’s usually HS friends that people get their first appartment with, keep in touch with, i.e. continue their life with after college. (On a side note, I’ve cought a few episodes of One Tree Hill, and my lord that has to be the most fuckable cast on TV.) To a certain extent, I think it’s good the show is leaving. The first season was phenominal, the second okay, and this season was just trying to stay alive. I think one of their biggest problems was creating so many interesting characters in the first season that the show didn’t feel like a whole without them. ---
**Author:** ![MidnightRadio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@MidnightRadio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidnightRadio)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/31 "2007-05-22T07:19:37Z")
I don’t think there’s going to be a “flash forward.” I know Wikipedia’s not the most reliable source, but in their description/spoilers for the series finale, they say, With the re-election campaign nearing, Keith tries to protect Veronica, but loses her to a mysterious gunman. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2007, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/32 "2007-05-22T12:23:17Z")
Regarding the finale tonight (5/22) remember that it’s two hours starting an hour early. Technically the last two episodes as opposed to a two-hour finale. ---
**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/33 "2007-05-23T01:16:27Z")
[QUOTE=Frostillicus] First Arrested Development. Now Veronica Mars. (sigh) [/QUOTE] Yeah, no kidding. I have the same feeling about AD. I think it would have been a lot better if it could have been produced like the Office in the UK. Short seasons. Firstly Mitch Hurwitz in the end was too stressed out to actually continue. It was a constant effort for him for three years, so I imagine that he couldn’t have made it last longer even if they’d wanted him too. I just feel that it would have been nice if some rich benefactor had stepped in to make more of them even if only to go straight to DVD or to have some thing where the ratings didn’t matter. But Fox did give it a shot and it was hard to get into. I didn’t like AD the first time I saw it because I saw a lot of the humor as the juvenile Will Ferrel type without knowing the stuff behind it. I saw GOB’s chicken dance as a bit forced and pointless, but once I realized that it was a totally different style than I had imagined I changed my mind. Sorry VM fans. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/34 "2007-05-23T01:18:55Z")
[QUOTE=Merkwurdigliebe] Yeah, no kidding. I have the same feeling about AD. I think it would have been a lot better if it could have been produced like the Office in the UK. Short seasons. Firstly Mitch Hurwitz in the end was too stressed out to actually continue. It was a constant effort for him for three years, so I imagine that he couldn’t have made it last longer even if they’d wanted him too. I just feel that it would have been nice if some rich benefactor had stepped in to make more of them even if only to go straight to DVD or to have some thing where the ratings didn’t matter. But Fox did give it a shot and it was hard to get into. I didn’t like AD the first time I saw it because I saw a lot of the humor as the juvenile Will Ferrel type without knowing the stuff behind it. I saw GOB’s chicken dance as a bit forced and pointless, but once I realized that it was a totally different style than I had imagined I changed my mind. Sorry VM fans. [/QUOTE] Curse my hijack, but Showtime did. I honestly feel more betrayed by Hurwitz than Fox because the show COULD have gone on, and he ended it. ---
**Author:** ![Phantom\_Dennis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/51bf81/32.png) [@Phantom\_Dennis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phantom_Dennis)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2007, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/35 "2007-05-23T01:40:21Z")
Damn. It was one of the better shows on network TV. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/36 "2018-10-05T23:01:00Z")
[_Veronica Mars_ is uncanceled](https://www.tvguide.com/news/veronica-mars-revival-everything-we-know/). (This was mentioned in the _The Good Place_ thread, but I thought it merited spinning off.) I’m of two minds about this: on the one hand, I’m excited to have the show back, but on the other, the point of the show was “Veronica Mars, Teen Detective” and it kinda changes the tone to now be “Veronica Mars, Approaching Middle Age Detective.” ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/37 "2018-10-05T23:03:12Z")
I like when those teens grow up and become middle-aged adults. I am talking to you Scooby gang! ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/38 "2018-10-06T00:26:41Z")
Hopefully we’ll get some resolution on all the plot threads that were left hanging. Did the Sheriff get reelected? Will Veronica stick with Piz? Hopefully Deputy Sachs will be in fine form, as always. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/39 "2018-10-06T00:48:33Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Hopefully we’ll get some resolution on all the plot threads that were left hanging. Did the Sheriff get reelected? Will Veronica stick with Piz? Hopefully Deputy Sachs will be in fine form, as always. Weren’t some of these revealed in the movie? ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Charles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/839c29/32.png) [@Greg\_Charles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greg_Charles)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473/40 "2018-10-06T01:27:51Z")
Kristen Bell doesn’t seem to have aged much from her teens to middle-aged adulthood. Well, part of that is that she was 25 or so when she played a teen, and now is just 38, but still, she’s taking care of herself! I loved this show for the way it skated on the edge of plausibility and fantasy, and never seemed to worry too much which side of the line it was on. It was also fun for me that it filmed almost exclusively in San Diego, not just beach or skyline shots, but every scene. I enjoyed trying to figure out where they all were. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-cancelled/404473.md?page=3)