# "Veronica Mars" is the best show in the universe!
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [January 26, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817 "2005-01-26T20:49:07Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/1 "2005-01-26T20:49:07Z")
Well, I think there’s a drama in the Gamma quadrant that is probably better, but I forget the name.
“Veronica Mars” alone provides justification for the existence of the UPN network.
It’s so…deep.
True, on the surface it looks like a show for 16 year old girls, and true, I’m a 36 year old man that probably shouldn’t be interested in it.
But…I love it!
Does everyone…or at least…ANYONE agree with me?
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### Author:  [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2005, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/2 "2005-01-26T21:55:08Z")
Yeah, well the people on Mars say the exact same thing about “Veronica Earth”. So who’s right?
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### Author:  [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2005, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/3 "2005-01-26T22:35:20Z")
This thread is better suited for [**Cafe Society**](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/forumdisplay.php?f=13).
I’ll move it for you.
**Cajun Man**
for the SDMB
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### Author:  [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2005, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/4 "2005-01-26T22:41:11Z")
I think you misspelled “The Venture Bros.”
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### Author:  [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/5 "2005-01-26T22:56:30Z")
I don’t understand why this is better suited for the Cafe Society. I thought it was pretty mundane and pointless!
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### Author:  [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)
#### Post date: [January 26, 2005, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/6 "2005-01-26T23:36:23Z")
> [@SiouxChief](#):
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> I don’t understand why this is better suited for the Cafe Society. I thought it was pretty mundane and pointless!
All discussion of art, culture, entertainment, music, mass media, etc. belong in this category. MPSIMS is for any items that don’t fall into this or one of the other especially designated groups.
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### Author:  [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/7 "2005-01-27T00:25:26Z")
It’s ai’ight.
I think all the stuff with the “who killed Lizzie Maguire” or whoever her friend was is actually the weakest. The stand alone mysteries are fun.
The cast is really good. The girl from Napoleon Dynamite is good. Veronica is cute in the most unsexual way imaginable and very charismatic. The show is stylistic without being pompous.
The fake id episode is particularly good.
“Oh you stop it.”
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### Author:  [@Made\_in\_Macau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Made_in_Macau)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/8 "2005-01-27T00:31:45Z")
I’ll see your ‘Veronica Mars’ and raise you a ‘Shameless’
MiM
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### Author:  [@Sengkelat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sengkelat)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/9 "2005-01-27T00:48:02Z")
I’ve seen an ep. I liked it. I’m not exactly sure it’s the best thing ever, but it was certainly better than a lot of TV. (For the record, I saw the “You’re adopted” episode)
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### Author:  [@Spurious\_George](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spurious_George)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/10 "2005-01-27T00:55:51Z")
> [@Push You Down](#):
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> The fake id episode is particularly good.
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> “Oh you stop it.”
I agree on that episode.
“Hi Dad! Their case is fuzzy and circumstantial.”
“You know the odd thing? Those were also her very first words.”
That was the pisode that finally convinced me, though I have watched them all.
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/11 "2005-01-27T00:57:40Z")
It’s not the best thing ever but it is a fine fine piece of entertainment.
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### Author:  [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/12 "2005-01-27T02:39:03Z")
OK, perhaps I overstated it a little bit. But there are so many moments in the show that I simply was _not_ expecting.
Although I did not think it was within her character to just rip up the paper telling her if her father is her real dad.
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### Author:  [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/13 "2005-01-27T02:41:20Z")
Definitely loving this show. Possibly my favorite thing on.
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### Author:  [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/14 "2005-01-27T04:18:25Z")
I’m hooked, which is the kiss of death for any show.
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### Author:  [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/15 "2005-01-27T04:27:52Z")
I won’t go as far as the OP but this is definitely a show worth watching. When I watch _Lost_ I keep waiting for each episode to kick in; I always feel that show is on the edge of being something better. But on _Veronica Mars_ I experience the opposite effect; each episode is always about 10% better than I expected it would be.
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### Author:  [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/16 "2005-01-27T04:55:22Z")
“Want to know how I lost my virginity? So do I.”
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### Author:  [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/17 "2005-01-27T05:34:07Z")
Here is an interview of Kristen Bell I found online. It’s an interesting read. It disturbs me, though, that it was done by “popGurls” lol
Ah well…
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### Author:  [@SiouxChief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SiouxChief)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/18 "2005-01-27T05:36:08Z")
Oh, right…the
[link](http://www.popgurls.com/article_show.php3?id=528)
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### Author:  [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/19 "2005-01-27T12:37:06Z")
The show tries, with varying degrees of success, to be both serious (in a soap opera fashion) and bubblegum. It is at its most entertaining when it’s about Veronica being the wily girl detective. It takes a nosedive when we’re dealing with personal dramas that don’t apparently connect to Veronica’s story, even though they strongly hint that it’s all going someplace.
Where it’s going is the big problem with the show. The show is hanging on this story arc about Lilly’s murder. At some point, they will either have brought this to a conclusion, in which case the entire show stands to collapse because everything everybody does is about this murder one way or another, or they will have to continue teasing the viewers and never really tell them what’s going on, in which case the audience will come to feel strung along, and the series will end without a conclusion having ever been reached.
Oh, and this business about “Abel killed Kane,” wow. They only way that’s going to get any more clever is when they inevitably hammer an explanation of the joke into somebody’s dialogue. Or, have I missed it already?
I like the show, but in the kind of cruel world in which Beans Baxter got cancelled, what chance does Veronica Mars have?
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### Author:  [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)
#### Post date: [January 27, 2005, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/veronica-mars-is-the-best-show-in-the-universe/286817/20 "2005-01-27T13:53:08Z")
> [@SiouxChief](#):
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> “Want to know how I lost my virginity? So do I.”
That’s actually what hooked me on the show. Definite “wow” moment.
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