# Very Annoying Racial Myths. Discuss it.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 19, 2012, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629 "2012-06-19T10:47:23Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gezmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gezmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gezmo)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/41 "2012-06-19T21:36:53Z")

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> [@the\_apples\_fell](#):
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> That there is a Hispanic race.
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> What most think of as “Hispanic” is truly mestizo, a combination of European and Native American (common amongst Mexicans, the largest Hispanic group in the US) OR mulatto, a mixture of European and African common to Dominicans and Puerto Ricans (two groups that you encounter a lot on the east coast). This does not mean there is a “Hispanic” race, it just means that certain combinations of ancestries happen to be common in Latin America due to historical reasons.
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> Nonetheless, when someone says “Oh, Christina Milian is Latina, not black” or “Cameron Diaz isn’t white, she is Latina” you have to wonder what they are thinking. Being Hispanic just means you come from a Spanish-American cultural background from Latin America, with Spanish as your first language or ancestral language. You can be Hispanic and of any race, but most Americans do not seem to realize it.

Hell yes! Ignorant people don’t realize that.

Another Racial Misenterprentation that bothers me is that most people don’t know what CAUCASION is.

Most people assume caucasion people to be people with blonde hair, blue eyes, and white skin. Caucasion people can have any hair color, and any skin color.  
Indian people (in India) are caucasion, and they can have tan or bark colored skin.  
Anthropologist identify what people are based on their facial bones, not their color.

Caucasion people are diverse just as all other people are.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/42 "2012-06-19T21:41:40Z")

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> [@Gezmo](#):
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> Another Racial Misenterprentation that bothers me is that most people don’t know what CAUCASION is.

Or how to spell it. I think you’re oversimplifying here. Caucasian has meant more than one thing historically and today most people just use it as a synonym for white people. That’s no more or less baloney than the original racial theory it was part of.

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**Author:** ![the\_apples\_fell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@the\_apples\_fell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_apples_fell)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/43 "2012-06-19T21:58:08Z")

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Another one is that only Europeans and European-descendants can be white. Many North Africans, Levantines, Turks, etc. can also be white.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2012, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/44 "2012-06-19T21:58:58Z")

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> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#):
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> In fact I’ve noticed that shorter men (at least the shorter men I’ve dated) seem to have bigger packages as a general trend. (Not universally, but a trend).

This is most definitely true.

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**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/45 "2012-06-20T01:10:34Z")

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Well Australians don’t all look like Paul Hogan or Steve Irwin.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/46 "2012-06-20T05:24:06Z")

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> [@Gezmo](#):
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> Black Women have big booties. This stereotype is mostly false considering most black women don’t have big booties, most women despite their race don’t have a big booty. Many have a well shaped butt, but one that is actually big is rare. Also Asian women are not flat like pieces of cardboard. Some black women think they have a big beautiful butt, and they eat a lot to make it bigger, yet most of the weight is going to their belly.

Ok, you are totally wrong here. Black women (African-American) have asses unlike any other race/ethnicity of women anywhere. They are quite something to behold. Personally, I don’t even how some of the more extreme ones are even possible-but they are.

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/47 "2012-06-20T05:34:32Z")

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Sorry, but a lot of Asian women are pretty flat. East Asian women, anyway. Getting a bra that’s a B cup or larger is a bit of an ordeal, and the cut of most women’s clothing assumes you are shaped like a chopstick.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/48 "2012-06-20T05:41:38Z")

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You aren’t going to find any white girls with an ass like [this](http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nicki-minaj-ass-black-pants.jpg). 😛

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/49 "2012-06-20T06:03:25Z")

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It really annoys me when people say the Irish are violent drunks, last time someone said that to me I almost smashed my pint glass over his head.

> [@Anaamika](#):
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> This one really pisses me off. Asian men do _not_ have tiny penises.

[http://www.everyoneweb.com/worldpenissize/](http://www.everyoneweb.com/worldpenissize/)

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/50 "2012-06-20T06:16:04Z")

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> [@the\_apples\_fell](#):
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> That there is a Hispanic race.

Dude, my first post in this thread. Seriously, LTR.

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**Author:** ![Gezmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gezmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gezmo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/51 "2012-06-20T06:22:35Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> You aren’t going to find any white girls with an ass like [this](http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/nicki-minaj-ass-black-pants.jpg). 😛

I have, but I don’t feel like back tracing to where I found those images, and don’t forget about Kim K, she’s just one of them.

Also, Nicki Minaj’s ass wasn’t looking that big in a bikini photo of her, so she probably was wearing something under her pants. Just google: Nicki Minaj Bikini

Also most black young black women I see in person do not look like that, and do not have that type of booty. I remember seeing a lot of under-developed ones when I was in Highschool. I do remeber seeing a few Filipinas, and Mexican women with big butts though.

Look at the ones you see everyday, not the ones in Magazines and Videos.

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**Author:** ![Gezmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gezmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gezmo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/52 "2012-06-20T06:28:42Z")

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Another thing to mention is that body shapes across different races is that they mostly reflect the person’s living conditions, and diet. They also reflect the diet and living conditions of their mother, before they left the womb.

The heavily rice based diet in East Asia causes people to be less developed (post puberty features) than those who consume more meats and other foods.  
Like wise, starvation causes stunted growth, and under developed people in other places of the world like parts of India, and Africa.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/53 "2012-06-20T06:35:38Z")

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> [@Gezmo](#):
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> I have, but I don’t feel like back tracing to where I found those images, and don’t forget about Kim K, she’s just one of them.
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> Also, Nicki Minaj’s ass wasn’t looking that big in a bikini photo of her, so she probably was wearing something under her pants. Just google: Nicki Minaj Bikini
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> Also most black young black women I see in person do not look like that, and do not have that type of booty. I remember seeing a lot of under-developed ones when I was in Highschool. I do remeber seeing a few Filipinas, and Mexican women with big butts though.
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> Look at the ones you see everyday, not the ones in Magazines and Videos.

Well of course I do. I just don’t go around snapping random pictures of them. 😉

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**Author:** ![Gezmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gezmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gezmo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/54 "2012-06-20T06:36:22Z")

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The only race of people that I know that have true steatopygia (a big sexy booty that stick out) on a consistent basis are the Khoisan women of Africa. Not African American women, and most African Americans have ancestry from the Ivory Coast of West Africa, not southern Africa ( where the Khoisan live). You also have to know that most African Americans have some level of Caucasian genes mixed in them

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**Author:** ![Gezmo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Gezmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gezmo)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/55 "2012-06-20T06:53:07Z")

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Hmmm, it seems that “black” people have the most myths made about them.

This next one involves AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINES. Some people believe that Australian Aborigines are black people, straight out of Africa. While it is true that everyone originates from Africa, Aborigines are not anymore African than Europeans are, they are both thousands of years away from Africa in their migration.

Australian Aborigines are not directly related to black Africans. Before humans entered Australia, they first had to cross Egypt or the Red Sea, Saudi Arabia, India, and South East Asia. Aborigines are not East Asian niether, nor are they the Indians that we see today. They are their own distinct group with their own distinct looks, culture and language.

Look at the shape of their faces, and hair color then compare them to West Africans.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/56 "2012-06-20T12:29:09Z")

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> [@ColdPhoenix](#):
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> [http://www.everyoneweb.com/worldpenissize/](http://www.everyoneweb.com/worldpenissize/)

South America is totally sporting a monster green chubby. 🙂

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/57 "2012-06-20T13:25:15Z")

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> [@the\_apples\_fell](#):
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> Another one is that only Europeans and European-descendants can be white. Many North Africans, Levantines, Turks, etc. can also be white.

Almost anybody can be recognized as “white”. White (like any racial grouping) has no universally recognized boundaries. Carleton S. Coon felt that White/Caucasian encompassed Europe, Central Asia, South Asia, the Near East, North Africa and the Horn of Africa. The truth is that “White” changes from area-to-area and over time; this is the same for any conceived racial grouping.

> [@Gezmo](#):
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> Also, Nicki Minaj’s ass wasn’t looking that big in a bikini photo of her, so she probably was wearing something under her pants. Just google: Nicki Minaj Bikini

Also judging by her last name (and a little wikipedia) her ancestry probably includes South Asia.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/58 "2012-06-20T17:27:46Z")

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> [@Gezmo](#):
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> I have, but I don’t feel like back tracing to where I found those images, and don’t forget about Kim K, she’s just one of them.
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> Also, Nicki Minaj’s ass wasn’t looking that big in a bikini photo of her, so she probably was wearing something under her pants. Just google: Nicki Minaj Bikini
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> Also most black young black women I see in person do not look like that, and do not have that type of booty. I remember seeing a lot of under-developed ones when I was in Highschool. I do remeber seeing a few Filipinas, and Mexican women with big butts though.
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> Look at the ones you see everyday, not the ones in Magazines and Videos.

Right. The issue could just be that stereotype is self-reinforced in popular media. The social ideal is that a Black woman has a big butt, so those who have such are the ones that become famous in an industry where looks are a big deal.

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**Author:** ![Dingbang](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@Dingbang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dingbang)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/59 "2012-06-20T19:30:28Z")

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> [@Gezmo](#):
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> What are some racial stereotypes and myths that bother you?  
> Well here are some of mine. For one I hate it when people associate a country with a race. Like when people say MEXICANS. Mexico is a diverse country, and it even gets immigrants from Asia, and the Middle East. There are mixed Mestizos, as well as pure Europeans, and pure Native Central Americans, even black people. I once had an argument with somebody that actually thought Mexican was a race.
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> Another racial thing that ignorant people believe is that Hispanic is a race. By definition, being Hispanic means you originate from a Spanish speaking country that was once a Spanish colony. Therefore Cubans, and Dominicans are also Hispanic, despite being different in races, and cultures.
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> What’s more annoying is how people refer to Africa as if it were one huge country. Many people including black people don’t understand how diverse Africa is.

See, this is why people get so tired of complaints of about stereotypes, racism, etc. You’re offended when people say “Mexicans.” What the hell are we supposed to call people from Mexico? “The People From That Diverse Country Mexico, Which Gets Immigrants from Asia and the Middle East?” Get over yourself.

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**Author:** ![the\_apples\_fell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@the\_apples\_fell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_apples_fell)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-annoying-racial-myths-discuss-it/625629/60 "2012-06-20T19:35:23Z")

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Another one is people assuming all Africans are black. You have white European descendants in South Africa, Arabs and Berbers in North Africa, mixed-race people in Cape Verde, etc.

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