# Very disappointed with the Kentucky Derby finish **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 4, 2019, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-disappointed-with-the-kentucky-derby-finish/833486 "2019-05-04T23:27:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-disappointed-with-the-kentucky-derby-finish/833486/62 "2019-05-07T15:47:10Z")
> [@Bullitt](#): > > But it most certainly did affect the outcome of the race, for War of Will and Long Range Toddy. > > What about them? If you owned one of those horses, you wouldn’t be happy. I wouldn’t have been happy but I don’t know that I would have filed a protest; honestly. I raced motorcycles (flat-track) and did I feel cheated and/or abused sometimes? Sure did. But like the old saying goes that’s why its called racing and not winning. I just figured there was always the next race. Yeah, I know - even though I was ranked as a professional there was not this kind of money on the line. But sometimes excrement occurs and you just deal with it. Sloppy tracks, someone with no chance foiling your big chance, its all just another day at the office. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-disappointed-with-the-kentucky-derby-finish/833486/63 "2019-05-07T17:17:59Z")
Mediaite has a story that says the Derby winner [will not be in](https://www.mediaite.com/sports/no-triple-crown-kentucky-derby-winner-county-house-out-of-preakness/) the next race. Curiously, the story identifies the horse as “County House”. One letter can make a pretty big difference. Sounds like a prison. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2019, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-disappointed-with-the-kentucky-derby-finish/833486/64 "2019-05-07T17:56:40Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > One letter can make a pretty big difference. Yes. I’ve seen the Derby winner referred to as “Country Horse”. ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-disappointed-with-the-kentucky-derby-finish/833486/65 "2019-05-08T12:20:42Z")
Thought I’d post this here, as I suspected most folk interested in the Derby were here: How does it work with a single trainer (Baffert) training multiple horses (3)? If I know how each horse has been doing in training, their tendencies/preferences/weaknesses, how do I not play one horse off the other? They make a big deal about the trainer giving the jokey last minute instructions. Wouldn’t Baffert be able to tell the rider of one horse which strategy would best beat the other 2 he trains? In fact, doesn’t he owe it to his clients (the horses’ owners) to give each horse the best chance to win? Just strikes me as a potential conflict of interest. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-disappointed-with-the-kentucky-derby-finish/833486/66 "2019-05-08T19:34:46Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > Apparently the snowflake derby riders can’t abide it. And I watched all the replays, sorry I don’t see how Country House was affected. Best horse lost. Ugh. Unlike a human race, you have 1,200 pound horses running at 40 miles per hour. A veer like what happened has a very real chance of dead horses and injured jockies. > [@Broomstick](#): > > Yes, but when touching in NASCAR gets out of hand and you wind up with a stack of cars and drivers in messed up pile the cars don’t scream in agony and you don’t have to shoot them for having a flat tire. I can’t help but think that might have something to do with the rule. Just so. > [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > Looking at it purely objectively and not with any history of horse racing, the fact that the top favorite (4.5:1) was disqualified to permit a long shot (64:1) to win just shows how much instant communications has infiltrated society. I’m not following your argument; the track cares not at all on the odds of a race winner. It merely collects the money from the bettors, skims a percentage off the top (giving half to the state) and distributes the rest to to those holding the winning ticket. If bunches of people were right in thinking a horse would win, the pool is divvied in bunches of ways and short odds result. If only a few people thought the horse would win, the _exact same amount_ is divided into only a handful of piles and the ticket holders get a big payoff. It’s not like a casino bragging that some guy won a million bucks playing a slot machine so, maybe you can, too. Andy Beyer was right when he called handicapping the world’s toughest way to make an easy living. > [@RealityChuck](#): > > Here’s a [photo that clinches it](https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/59900717_2423248511048315_1175632217926270976_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=1638f3fd930e6da66ba0f96b3f848ee0&oe=5D5F2C05). Note that the black horse has one leg between Maximum Security’s. That is extremely dangerous; if that leg had clipped one of Maximum Security’s, the horse would have fallen. Note the other horse behind behind. It would have been an immediate chain reaction of horses falling. Probably one or two of them would have broken their legs. The jockey would have been thrown to the mud with the rear guard of the horses running right towards them. > > It didn’t happen, which is good. But it would have been a disaster if it had. [Here](https://youtu.be/VUZPhd9geI8?t=31) is similar situation at Del Mar where contact did occur, a horse was killed, and two jockies injured. Maybe you want to tell those snowflakes to suck it up, **Lucas**? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-disappointed-with-the-kentucky-derby-finish/833486.md?page=3)