# Very Lame R.O. re: Obama Impeachment Merchandise & Sites **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 27, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308 "2009-01-27T23:51:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/1 "2009-01-27T23:51:35Z")
I actually thought these were jokes when I first saw them, but apparently they’re selling well and the proprietors of the web sites seem, in many cases, to be completely serious. Clinton’s impeachment was bogus imo, but at least there was a “valid reason if you squint, stand back a way, and want him impeached” reason for it, but how the fuck can you talk about impeaching a man who was inaugurated last week? [Obama Impeachment dot Org](http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/) [Facebook page](http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=119274310203&ref=nf) And of course all manner of merchandise available for the googling. How freaking lame and desperate can these people be? Dubya gave ample cause for impeachment proceedings and I wasn’t even in favor of them because I think it’s terrible international PR and should be reserved for absolute necessity. Totally lame R.O., but still, just pissed me off a bit anyway, especially following Rush’s “Hope he fails” comments. Of course if he’s impeached it will be good news for the black conservative pundits who were all employed by CNN and FOX during the election and are now out of work (or at least media exposure) as they can get their special commentator status back so the networks can bash Obama without being accused of racism. ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/2 "2009-01-27T23:56:06Z")
Haven’t Clinton and Bush made it rather traditional? Wouldn’t it be somewhat spooky if the current US prez, whomever it may be, _didn’t_ have someone cheerleading for their impeachment? ETA: and as for the timing, it’s all so they can say, ‘I was for impeachment back _before_ it became cool’. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/3 "2009-01-28T00:07:28Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > [Obama Impeachment dot Org](http://www.obamaimpeachment.org/) Nearly 11,000 signatures. Talk about loony tunes. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/4 "2009-01-28T00:58:55Z")
Meh, didn’t they have some for Bush? (Although to be fair, it was only after he had been in office for a while). Let the kiddies have their fun. ---
**Author:** ![NinjaChick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@NinjaChick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinjaChick)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/5 "2009-01-28T01:13:15Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Meh, didn’t they have some for Bush? (Although to be fair, it was only after he had been in office for a while). > > Let the kiddies have their fun. Yeah, there were quite a lot, but AFAIK it started no sooner than the latter days of his first term, perhaps even not until his second. At the point where Bush had, y’know, done stuff. [obamaimpeachment.org](http://obamaimpeachment.org) was registered on July 25th, 2008, which was a month before the convention, even. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/6 "2009-01-28T01:16:13Z")
Setting aside for a moment the apparent lack of any coherent _grounds_ for impeachment of a President who’s occupied the seat for a almost a whole week, are these yo-yos saying they’d rather have President Biden instead? ---
**Author:** ![spike404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@spike404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spike404)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/7 "2009-01-28T01:18:14Z")
“…Dubya gave ample cause for impeachment proceedings…” What is the difference between your opinion, and theirs? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/8 "2009-01-28T01:19:44Z")
That Impeach Obama site is calling for his expulsion from the _Senate_. Apparently it hasn’t been updated since the election. The operators’ heads exploded, prolly. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/9 "2009-01-28T01:28:57Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > That Impeach Obama site is calling for his expulsion from the _Senate_. Apparently it hasn’t been updated since the election. The operators’ heads exploded, prolly. Hey, they got what they wanted. He’s no longer a Senator. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/10 "2009-01-28T01:35:48Z")
> [@spike404](#): > > “…Dubya gave ample cause for impeachment proceedings…” > > What is the difference between your opinion, and theirs? Well, his is supported by actual facts, and theirs are not. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/11 "2009-01-28T02:00:05Z")
You mean there are crazy people on the internet? ALERT THE MEDIA! ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/12 "2009-01-28T02:04:16Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Clinton’s impeachment was bogus imo, but at least there was a “valid reason if you squint, stand back a way, and want him impeached” reason for it. Clinton lied under oath. If that’s not grounds for impeachment, then what the hell is? Oh, right, having policies you disagree with (a la bush). :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/13 "2009-01-28T02:09:21Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Clinton lied under oath. If that’s not grounds for impeachment, then what the hell is? Oh, right, having policies you disagree with (a la bush). :rolleyes: Clinton lied about something that was none of anybody’s damn business anyway. And I think lying the country into a war is a bit more than a policy disagreement (which in any case isn’t his only offense). ---
**Author:** ![spike404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@spike404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spike404)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/14 "2009-01-28T02:26:00Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > Well, his is supported by actual facts, and theirs are not. Imagined facts. Besides, impeachment does not mean removal from office. Impeachment is like an indictment on a criminal charge, and can only be brought by the House. An impeached officer is then tried by the Senate. Impeachment has now become a meaningless political buzzword. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/15 "2009-01-28T02:32:34Z")
> [@spike404](#): > > Imagined facts. Besides, impeachment does not mean removal from office. It’s a fact that we invaded Iraq based on allegations of WMDs that weren’t there. There are essentially two possible scenarios- Bush knowingly misled the public (criminal), Bush unwittingly misled the public (possibly criminal). Personally, I don’t believe there’s a case for impeachment, but I don’t believe that there isn’t _cause_ for it. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/16 "2009-01-28T02:43:58Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > Clinton lied about something that was none of anybody’s damn business anyway. You are an idiot. Lying under oath while president is lying under oath while president, I don’t care what it was about. > [@](#): > > And I think lying the country into a war is a bit more than a policy disagreement (which in any case isn’t his only offense). And it’s nice how in one post you illustrate the odd SDMB double standard on lying–Clinton’s lie was OK but you are willing to cry “lie” about anyone else without showing any actual intent to deceive. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/17 "2009-01-28T02:45:02Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s a fact that we invaded Iraq based on allegations of WMDs that weren’t there. There are essentially two possible scenarios- Bush knowingly misled the public (criminal), Bush unwittingly misled the public (possibly criminal). False dichotomy. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/18 "2009-01-28T02:47:08Z")
**Rand** , I’ll make you a deal. We’ll give you Clinton, and you can have Scooter Libby back, and we get Bush. Fair? ETA: What false dichotomy? I allowed for the possibility that Bush believed the allegations, but was not guilty of negligence. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/19 "2009-01-28T02:50:13Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **Rand** , I’ll make you a deal. We’ll give you Clinton, and you can have Scooter Libby back, and we get Bush. Fair? Que? > [@](#): > > ETA: What false dichotomy? I allowed for the possibility that Bush believed the allegations, but was not guilty of negligence. So two versions of Bush misleading the public covers all possible scenarios? I don’t think you know what the logical fallacy of “false dichotomy” means. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/20 "2009-01-28T02:54:16Z")
> [@spike404](#): > > “…Dubya gave ample cause for impeachment proceedings…” > > What is the difference between your opinion, and theirs? This is The Pit, so I can admit to being really ticked off at this comment. I’ve been up for 16 hours, including 6 hours driving and most of the rest skiing, You, on the other hand, have clearly been asleep for the last eight years. [My previous post is my cite](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10416510&postcount=5) Full thread [thread=491730]here[/thread] [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308.md?page=2)