# Very Lame R.O. re: Obama Impeachment Merchandise & Sites **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 27, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308 "2009-01-27T23:51:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/61 "2009-01-28T21:05:04Z")
Right- Starr used Taxpayer money to embarass a political rival.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bb73d2/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Joe\_Meager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Joe_Meager)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/62 "2009-01-28T21:13:38Z")
> [@NinjaChick](#): > > [obamaimpeachment.org](http://obamaimpeachment.org) was registered on July 25th, 2008, which was a month before the convention, even. So? It’s called “domain squatting”, and doesn’t prove much in this context. I bet a month before the convention www.\<_everycandidateeventhelunaticfringe_\>impeachment.org was squatted on. Doesn’t mean anyone was planning on it then, just means some entrepreneur was making a play and grabbing up the names. [http://www.impeachhilary.com/](http://www.impeachhilary.com/) [http://www.impeachhilaryclinton.com](http://www.impeachhilaryclinton.com) [http://www.impeachhilarynow.com/](http://www.impeachhilarynow.com/) Relatively common, and unremarkable, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/63 "2009-01-28T21:32:13Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > There was never even an _allegation_ that BC had harrassed Lewinsky, so there was no reason to ask the question. Remember, they DID already have Lewinsky’s own description of the affair on tape in which she identified herself as the aggressor. They weren’t guessing as to the nature of the affair. They already knew. You don’t seem to understand the legal standard for asking a question during a deposition. There was plenty of good reason to ask the question, and it was perfectly proper in that circumstance to ask it. And if a deponent believes a question is improper, he cannot proffer a lie in response. He can certainly refuse to answer and demand that the judge rule on the issue. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/64 "2009-01-28T21:35:57Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > My Poli Sci professor said that everyone but Truman and Carter did it. I didn’t ask him for a cite, unfortunately, I’m unaware of any such allegation against Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 43, or Obama. Also, going back, not aware of any accusation against Eisenhower _while in office_, Hoover, Coolidge, or Wilson. In any event, if all you’ve got is “my prof told me…” I’d say it’s pretty indefensible. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/65 "2009-01-28T21:51:36Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > You don’t seem to understand the legal standard for asking a question during a deposition. There was plenty of good reason to ask the question, and it was perfectly proper in that circumstance to ask it. And if a deponent believes a question is improper, he cannot proffer a lie in response. He can certainly refuse to answer and demand that the judge rule on the issue. The question was immaterial and Clinton didn’t lie. We adjudicated this garbage 10 years ago and your side lost. Are you guys ever going to move on to the current century. I can’t believe I let myself get drawn into a Clinton blowjob food fight yet AGAIN. I was against impeaching Bush, but seriously, nobody who supported the Clinton impeachment with a straight face has any business saying Bush was not impeachable. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/66 "2009-01-28T22:14:00Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I was against impeaching Bush, but seriously, nobody who supported the Clinton impeachment with a straight face has any business saying Bush was not impeachable. Oh, but you just don’t like his _policies_. Clinton was a dirty immoral philanderer. Clearly Clinton should have just made it official policy that oral sex isn’t _really_ sex ahead of time, just like Bush said waterboarding isn’t _really_ torture, and he would have been fine. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/67 "2009-01-28T22:15:03Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The question was immaterial and Clinton didn’t lie. We adjudicated this garbage 10 years ago and your side lost. Are you guys ever going to move on to the current century. I can’t believe I let myself get drawn into a Clinton blowjob food fight yet AGAIN. > > I was against impeaching Bush, but seriously, nobody who supported the Clinton impeachment with a straight face has any business saying Bush was not impeachable. Extremely deceptive summary. Very little was “ajudicated.” Clinton was never tried for perjury. The judge in his case certainly made it clear how she would have ruled, had that trial been commenced with her sitting on the bench and no jury to decide the issue. But certainly a jury could have chosen to aquit Clinton; we’ll never know. For you to characterize this as “ajudicated,” however, is not right. Here’s the truth: if Clinton had been tried, been convicted, and appealed his conviction, the record is legally sufficient for a reasonable jury to have found him guilty. What an actual jury would have done is anyone’s guess. ---
**Author:** ![emmaliminal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emmaliminal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emmaliminal)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/68 "2009-01-28T22:32:53Z")
Is it possible we could go back to talking about impeaching Obama? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/69 "2009-01-28T22:40:20Z")
That ship has sailed. ---
**Author:** ![spike404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@spike404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spike404)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/70 "2009-01-28T22:41:40Z")
“…But certainly a jury could have chosen to aquit Clinton; we’ll never know…” I think that a former president could never be tried for a crime, it is moot. How could an impartial jury, as per the Constitution, ever be seated? Can anyone imagine the quality of a jury made up folks who do not even know who the president is! Clinton, Bush, or whomever in the future–a ridiculous idea. Just fodder for zealots. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/71 "2009-01-28T22:44:25Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I’m unaware of any such allegation against Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 43, or Obama. Not when he was in the White House, but but it’s possible that he had an affair with Christine Larson in 1952-3 (Kitty Kelley even said that Reagan and Larson were in bed together when Patty was born). There are also rumors (and an Enquirer story) that Bush 43 had an affair with a former stripper named Tammy Phillips. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/72 "2009-01-28T23:10:52Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > My Poli Sci professor said that everyone but Truman and Carter did it. I didn’t ask him for a cite, unfortunately, I’d be pretty shocked to hear that James Buchanan had cheated on his wife in office, what with him never being married, and all. ---
**Author:** ![spike404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@spike404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spike404)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/73 "2009-01-28T23:23:04Z")
Andy Jackson would have given that poly-sci guy an ass whipping, or challenged him to a duel. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/74 "2009-01-28T23:24:11Z")
I think I will start a website designed to revoke the Constitutional restriction to two terms for President so Obama can be President-for-life. Too early…? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/75 "2009-01-28T23:28:27Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yeesh. Get a pamphlet press for that diatribey pablum, Mr. Upton Sinclair. I’m going to go take a shower now. You think I write as well as Sinclair? Thank you! He won a Pulitzer, you know. Which of the items on my list of possible impeachment charges against Dubya do you find to be unsupported by published fact? Oh, and “pamphlet press” is a dated reference. For those if us living in the Twenty-First Century, it’s called a blog. You can get one yourself. It involves a long series of tubes … ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Knig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@Typo\_Knig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Knig)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/76 "2009-01-28T23:52:20Z")
> [@spike404](#): > > “..You, on the other hand, have clearly been asleep for the last eight years…” > > Nope, just an observer of the political scene for more than 50 years. Way back when one actually had to read to be informed, as opposed to now, when one relies on googling to support their position. Really?? More than fifty years?! Well, color me impressed. Then you can tell me how much less impeachable Dubya is for his multiple constitution shattering shenanigans than Clinton was for his deceptions under oath, than GHW Bush was for his participation in Iran-Contra, than Reagan was for Iran-Contra and other official corruption (which Cabinet secretary of his did not get indicted?), than Carter was for the failure of Desert One, than Ford was for his suspicious meetings with Al Haig prior to the transition, than Nixon was for Watergate and the cover up, than LBJ was for Viet Nam/personal corruption/affairs take your pick, than JFK was for his affairs, and than Ike was for letting Sherman Adams snag a Vicuna coat. As a mere lad of less than fifty years, I obviously can not begin to understand the depth of your political experience and acumen, so please forgive me if the above list, generated off the top of my head and involving no reference materials whatsoever, is in any way inadequate. Bless your heart. In the most ladylike Southern lady sense. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/77 "2009-01-29T01:05:35Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Yeesh-classic Sampiro posting; you get paid by the word bub? This was of course just a long way of saying “I disagree with Bush’s policies.” And a classic Rand Rover response: when you can’t argue with the facts of a post, make up a new interpretation that nobody with bat brains would think the post actually said and argue that one while trying to hide an encyclopedic ignorance and a near complete inability to argue with all the success and self delusion of a benighted elephant hiding behind a dogwood tree\*. \*In winter when the limbs are bare. ---
**Author:** ![spike404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@spike404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spike404)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/78 "2009-01-29T01:14:22Z")
> [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > Really?? More than fifty years?! Well, color me impressed. > > Then you can tell me how much less impeachable Dubya is for his multiple constitution shattering shenanigans than Clinton was for his deceptions under oath, than GHW Bush was for his participation in Iran-Contra, than Reagan was for Iran-Contra and other official corruption (which Cabinet secretary of his did not get indicted?), than Carter was for the failure of Desert One, than Ford was for his suspicious meetings with Al Haig prior to the transition, than Nixon was for Watergate and the cover up, than LBJ was for Viet Nam/personal corruption/affairs take your pick, than JFK was for his affairs, and than Ike was for letting Sherman Adams snag a Vicuna coat. > > As a mere lad of less than fifty years, I obviously can not begin to understand the depth of your political experience and acumen, so please forgive me if the above list, generated off the top of my head and involving no reference materials whatsoever, is in any way inadequate. > > Bless your heart. > In the most ladylike Southern lady sense. Been busy googling, eh? You should have googled impeachment. It is the equivalent of an indictment. And, as the old saying goes, “A district attorney can indict a ham sandwich.” “..As a mere lad of less than fifty years, I obviously can not begin to understand the depth of your political experience and acumen..” Another old saying, “Some people live, and never learn.” You are a primo example. ---
**Author:** ![spike404](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@spike404](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spike404)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/79 "2009-01-29T01:20:04Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I don’t have to be. There is indisputable evidence that he made claims he knew were not true and that he tampered with the intelligence he showed to Congress. > > For example. He absolutely knew for a fact that the yellowcake claim was bullshit and he spewed it at a SOTU Address anyway. “…indisputable evidence…” Really? I was under the impression that all evidence is disputable. Correct? Otherwise, why even have a cross-examination of witnesses? Or even waste time with such an archaic procedure of a trial? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308/80 "2009-01-29T01:23:09Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Not when he was in the White House, but but it’s possible that he had an affair with Christine Larson in 1952-3 (Kitty Kelley even said that Reagan and Larson were in bed together when Patty was born). > > There are also rumors (and an Enquirer story) that Bush 43 had an affair with a former stripper named Tammy Phillips. Which “he”? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-lame-r-o-re-obama-impeachment-merchandise-sites/483308.md?page=5)