# Very Merry Muppet Christmas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-merry-muppet-christmas/139585>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 30, 2002, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-merry-muppet-christmas/139585 "2002-11-30T02:12:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-merry-muppet-christmas/139585/21 "2002-12-01T05:18:28Z")

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Hey, was the choreographer pig Nathan Lane?

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**Author:** ![PRNYouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PRNYouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PRNYouth)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-merry-muppet-christmas/139585/22 "2002-12-01T05:48:20Z")

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> _originally posted by E-Sabbath_  
> **Hey, was the choreographer pig Nathan Lane?**

Voice you mean? No, it wasn’t – the only celebrity voice in the film was Mel Brooks as the snowman. The others were all Muppet performers. I **believe** – but am not sure – that the pig (whose name I think is Howard) is performed by Bill Barretta, the same performer who does Pepe.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-merry-muppet-christmas/139585/23 "2002-12-01T05:53:39Z")

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A parody of Nathan Lane, that is… no, wait. I know where I’ve seen that face before. Blazing Saddles, the dance scene at the end!

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**Author:** ![TheOnlySaneOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheOnlySaneOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheOnlySaneOne)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-merry-muppet-christmas/139585/24 "2002-12-01T06:09:16Z")

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Scooter dancing in a cage.  
Quite possibly one of the most disturbing things I’ve seen in my life.

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**Author:** ![TheOnlySaneOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheOnlySaneOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheOnlySaneOne)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-merry-muppet-christmas/139585/25 "2002-12-01T06:11:12Z")

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Ack, hit submit too soon.

Needed to mention that I loved the movie, over all, and it had some great moments.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2002, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-merry-muppet-christmas/139585/26 "2002-12-01T14:56:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by rowrrbazzle \*  
> \*\*One part that I thought was too much was the “Fear Factor - eat the rat”. When I saw it I immediately thought of Orwell’s _1984_, where O’Brien threatens to enclose Winston’s head in a cage with a hungry rat. What were they thinking??? \*\*

I’ve never read _1984_, but they’re always making them do strange things on _Fear Factor_: sitting in a tub full of scorpions, eating buffalo testicles, etc. Eating Rizzo wouldn’t be out of place. (Having to face some of Rizzo’s non-civilized cousins would probably be more likely, however.)

I don’t think the coffee shrub was a Commander-in-Chief joke. It was just a joke regarding that God can do whatever He (or She) wants. He’s God, after all! Why not create a bush that dispenses coffee? It’s a lot easier. (Although that was somewhat weak, some of the other lines regarding God’s spare time were funny. “You’re just lucky _SpongeBob_ isn’t on.” “I like _SpongeBob_.” “Who asked you?”)

My feelings on the show were mixed. It did have its moments. I especially liked Fozzie’s run to the bank, where he’s chased by the Crocodile Hunter (or a reasonable facsimile thereof) and confused for the Grinch (or a reasonable facsimile thereof).

“Corporate synergy. It’s getting out of control.” (Lifts foot to reveal NBC peacock)

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