# Very mild, but... the Dope isn't influencing popular culture

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 15, 2008, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986 "2008-10-15T01:24:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Susie\_Derkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Susie\_Derkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Susie_Derkins)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/41 "2008-10-15T16:50:07Z")

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> [@Mister\_Armageddon](#):
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> It’s possible Jon Cryer might post here, since Cecil mentions him as a fan in one of his columns. Any other speculation on famous posters is probably wishful thinking, though.

I LOVE YOU, JON CRYER!

I owed that to my thirteen-year-old self.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/42 "2008-10-15T16:50:24Z")

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Well, of course we don’t influence the popular culture, we’re fucking mutants, of a peculiar stripe. The archtype Doper is a fact-nerd, we’re the people who can’t resist that bookstore title _1001 Obscure Facts That Nobody Cares About But You, You Hopeless Wonk_. The only reason we aren’t publicly shunned is that nobody really caught on that we exist, and if they did, they wouldn’t care.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/43 "2008-10-15T16:55:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, of course we don’t influence the popular culture, we’re fucking mutants, of a peculiar stripe. The archtype Doper is a fact-nerd, we’re the people who can’t resist that bookstore title _1001 Obscure Facts That Nobody Cares About But You, You Hopeless Wonk_. The only reason we aren’t publicly shunned is that nobody really caught on that we exist, and if they did, they wouldn’t care.

Jeez, can’t take you anywhere!

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/44 "2008-10-15T16:57:06Z")

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Try Googling “Straight Dope Message Board”. Lots and lots of hits that are not the SDMB.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/45 "2008-10-15T17:04:35Z")

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> [@Santo\_Rugger](#):
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> But how about assbitches?

I have it going back to Apr 4, 1998, according to a Google Usenet search, used in the sense one would probably construe from the term, as a “bitch” (either gay or straight) who likes it up the ass.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/46 "2008-10-15T17:36:50Z")

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On a related tack, the dope does not influence elections. Most commonly, liberals on the dope being (condescending/overenthusiastic/elitist/arrogant) does not somehow influence so many votes that there’s a real risk of it swinging the election.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/47 "2008-10-15T17:44:29Z")

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> [@MaxTheVool](#):
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> On a related tack, the dope does not influence elections. Most commonly, liberals on the dope being (condescending/overenthusiastic/elitist/arrogant) does not somehow influence so many votes that there’s a real risk of it swinging the election.

Likely not. But in some elections, even a couple hundred votes could make a difference.  
Do Blogs influence the elections?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/48 "2008-10-15T18:52:39Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> And something tells me we didn’t originate “penis ensues” either.

Penis ensues was in fact a hilarious typo made here by Anastaeseon. Possibly more than once IIRC. But yeah, it’s the exception. Most of the “in jokes” here are either A) not funny B) didn’t originate here, or C) A+B.

And frankly, I’m another one who is glad this place isn’t more popular and influential. See post #19.

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/49 "2008-10-15T19:34:55Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> This board is not even in the top 100 most popular boards on the net - didn’t even crack the top 20 in its heyday from what I remember

We had a heyday?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/50 "2008-10-15T19:37:49Z")

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> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#):
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> We had a heyday?

There was a time, before pay to post, that this board saw A LOT more traffic.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/51 "2008-10-15T20:12:28Z")

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I’m with you **js**. The particular form of idiocy has been around for as long as I’ve been here. People think that because they saw it here first, that it must have originated here. There are a few phrases unique to here but none of them have caught on in popular culture. Maybe some dork added them to Urban Dictionary but that’s about it.

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/52 "2008-10-15T20:24:20Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Some random podcaster using our jokes to fill time in her podcast is not a reference in the wider world.

Somebody mentioning the SDMB isn’t a reference to the SDMB?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/53 "2008-10-15T20:30:58Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> Somebody mentioning the SDMB isn’t a reference to the SDMB?

I mean that’s it not a reference in the “wider world” and not a “shoutout” the way this thing is normally understood as.

Podcasts are nice, but most of them live strictly in the world of geekiness. The same geekiness that would make someone want to post here in the first place. So a reference to the SDMB (and it was really more of a “I saw this funny thing on the net and I thought I’d share”) is really no different than when one blog mentions another blog. Is that considered a reference in the wider world?

A shoutout like “asshat” is supposed to be a reference that doesn’t require “these jokes are from the SDMB” to still be understood by the rest of the audience. It’s just the people on the inside that then know the real story.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/54 "2008-10-15T20:31:14Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> Somebody mentioning the SDMB isn’t a reference to the SDMB?

Somebody on a podcast mentioning the SDMB isn’t demonstrating the SDMB’s influence on popular culture. If it doesn’t qualify as popular, it’s hard to qualify as popular culture.

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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/55 "2008-10-15T20:56:23Z")

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If your OP has the word “mild” in it, it has no business in the Pit. This thread does not remotely belong in the Pit. Why is it in here?

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/56 "2008-10-15T21:08:28Z")

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The newest phrase that will sweep the boards is bacon pie. Push for bacon pie.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/57 "2008-10-15T21:14:22Z")

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I’m pretty sure there are some influential TV and political writers that come here (media). And I have seen the permutated memes and topics originationg here fly around the wavelengths.

Of course that may be the chicken or the egg. The board does offer some anonymity, however. Me, I’m much too conspicuous.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/58 "2008-10-15T21:14:34Z")

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That was mean. Now I’m craving bacon pie. I’m seeing it as a really overloaded quiche.

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/59 "2008-10-15T21:27:41Z")

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> [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](#):
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> If your OP has the word “mild” in it, it has no business in the Pit. This thread does not remotely belong in the Pit. Why is it in here?

I can’t speak for **jsgoddess** (obviously), but I assume she put it here because there might be negative replies. Also because a lot of times when one posts a quasi-rant somewhere else (like MPSIMS), you get accused of wanting only to allow ‘sweetness and light’ type responses rather than “man up” and take your lumps with possibly being bitched at.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/very-mild-but-the-dope-isnt-influencing-popular-culture/467986/60 "2008-10-15T21:29:16Z")

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> [@Harmonious\_Discord](#):
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> The newest phrase that will sweep the boards is bacon pie. Push for bacon pie.

I just put “bacon pie” in Google and got over 22,000 hits.

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