# Viability of a two state Israel Palestine solution in the moderate term **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Tags:** israel-hamas-war\ **Created:** [January 31, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viability-of-a-two-state-israel-palestine-solution-in-the-moderate-term/996923 "2024-01-31T18:06:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 116
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 5, 2024, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viability-of-a-two-state-israel-palestine-solution-in-the-moderate-term/996923/116 "2024-02-05T15:25:49Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > My question is why we call Jabalia, a city, a refugee camp, instead of calling it a city. Because it’s a place where refugees stay. Those are called refugee camps. Don’t like the name? Take it up with the UNHCR (which runs a few _camps_ that are almost as old as the UNRWA ones, and just as permanent and citified (although vernacular one-story buildings, not tenements, because they’re mostly built in shitty locations not wanting for land). Nobody regularly questions the refugee status of the Eritreans in Shagarab, the Sahrawi in the Tindouf camps or the Karen in Mae La, though. > [@Babale](#): > > OK, then in that case I am a third generation refugee from Morocco and I demand my rIgHt Of ReTuRn. Hey, one Right of Return per customer, and it looks like you already used yours… > [@Babale](#): > > Surely you see that this is not a sustainable way to run our planet, which is why _no other refugee group on the planet_ follows these rules. I’ve just given you the names of several places and groups where those very much are the rules on the ground. There are lots more. They may not be as unapologetically _open_ about it as UNWRA, but UNHCR maintains _lots_ of refugees in that exact same 3rd and 4th generation limbo. > [@Babale](#): > > Why not focus on making Gaza (and the West Bank) places that Palestinians will prosper in? Israel can lift its economy-strangling blockades and stop stealing fertile land and water from the WB _any_ time it wants to. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viability-of-a-two-state-israel-palestine-solution-in-the-moderate-term/996923)._