# Vice President Pence Recalled to DC. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 2, 2019, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401 "2019-07-02T16:03:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/21 "2019-07-02T19:45:49Z")
Israel actually bombed Iranian targets in Syria a couple of nights ago. Information is sparse, but it seems to have been a major sortie or series of sorties. A Syrian AA missile apparently landed in Cyprus. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/22 "2019-07-02T19:48:48Z")
It’s all good, we got Mike Pence on this. ---
**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/23 "2019-07-02T19:56:16Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Also FWIW, there are unconfirmed reports the EU is having a meeting of their PSC, probably in response to whatever the hell Trump/Pence and Putin are doing. E.g., > [https://mobile.twitter.com/TribunalReport/status/1146088457401507840](https://mobile.twitter.com/TribunalReport/status/1146088457401507840) The link is not a reputable news source, and it in turn links to this tweet from a freelance reporter, who provides no evidence: > [@](#): > > #Breaking: Just in - Unconfirmed reports that the European Commission security counsel has been called in for a meeting in #Brussels. #UE So it’s just rumors or hearsay. There is also no “European Commission security counsel [sic]”. If it was coming from reputable journalists or reporters, I’d take it more seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/24 "2019-07-02T20:05:44Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > It’s an entirely different kind of flying, altogether. It’s an entirely different kind of flying. ---
**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesutch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecb155/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesutch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesutch)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/25 "2019-07-02T20:07:58Z")
> [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](#): > > The link is not a reputable news source, and it in turn links to this tweet from a freelance reporter, who provides no evidence: > > So it’s just rumors or hearsay. There is also no “European Commission security counsel [sic]”. If it was coming from reputable journalists or reporters, I’d take it more seriously. There is indeed a “European Commission Security Counsel”, headquartered right here in Krakow, Poland, although membership currently only consists of myself, a young lady called “Anastasia” who works as a featured dancer for Klub Fantasy and the homeless alcoholic Ukrainian guy who lives on the park across from my place. ---
**Author:** ![mind\_the\_gap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@mind\_the\_gap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mind_the_gap)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/26 "2019-07-02T20:11:07Z")
Trump is getting ready to defenestrate him and replace him with Ivanka. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/27 "2019-07-02T20:54:27Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > The jet was diverted. No, it never left. It was apparently parked in the wrong place. > [@](#): > > The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/28 "2019-07-02T20:55:51Z")
Has anyone seen the Mountain of Orange Marmalade today? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/29 "2019-07-02T21:00:11Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Israel actually bombed Iranian targets in Syria a couple of nights ago. Information is sparse, but it seems to have been a major sortie or series of sorties. A Syrian AA missile apparently landed in Cyprus. Ahhh, the Syrian AA strategy: shoot all your shit in whatever direction it happens to be pointing at the time that you get attacked. Sure, you might clip an allied bird from time to time, but it’s a small price to pay for defending the holy land. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/30 "2019-07-02T21:13:26Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Has anyone seen the Mountain of Orange Marmalade today? You’re not thinking… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/31 "2019-07-02T21:14:43Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Israel actually bombed Iranian targets in Syria a couple of nights ago. Information is sparse, but it seems to have been a major sortie or series of sorties. A Syrian AA missile apparently landed in Cyprus. Nice to know their missiles don’t self destruct after a certain amount of time /s ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/32 "2019-07-02T21:19:10Z")
I note from the article on the Russian submersible that it is small enough to be used for “special operations”. Maybe I’ve read too many Tom Clancys, but does “special ops” include clandestine exflitrations of assets whose cover have been blown and they need to get out quickly? And of course, you need a plausible cover story as to why the submersible is away from its home port during the exfiltration - “fire on-board” might do it. Just thinking, that’s all… ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/33 "2019-07-02T21:36:52Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Nice to know their missiles don’t self destruct after a certain amount of time /s [Apparently not.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48824500) ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/34 "2019-07-02T22:04:57Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > It’s all good, we got Mike Pence on this. Mike Pence! What is it? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/35 "2019-07-02T22:06:03Z")
I was half expecting Fox News to cut away from its regular programming and start playing classical music. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/36 "2019-07-02T22:10:33Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Mike Pence! What is it? It’s the Vice President of the United States, but that’s not important right now… ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/37 "2019-07-02T22:13:35Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > It’s all good, we got Mike Pence on this. Hey, better him than the Orange Kludge. ETA: Maybe ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/38 "2019-07-02T22:48:40Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Israel actually bombed Iranian targets in Syria a couple of nights ago. Information is sparse, but it seems to have been a major sortie or series of sorties. A Syrian AA missile apparently landed in Cyprus. The claim is that it was an errant SA-5/S-200. Not the first time it’s claimed that sort of thing’s happened with that missile: [Siberia Airlines Flight 1812 - Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia_Airlines_Flight_1812) Strange in that I didn’t think it had that kind of range to be responsible for either incident, unlike either the S-400/SA-21 or S-300VM/SA-23. Moreover, the wiki for the Gammon claims it uses Semi-Active Radar Homing instead of Active Radar Homing in terminal phase. IOW, it needs a ground radar shining on whatever it needs to hit. So, in the case of Flt 1812, why not just turn the tracking radar off? Russians… I’m glad the thing didn’t go off in that Cyprus field. It’s not a small missile. Bigger than what shredded that Malaysian airliner over Ukraine. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/39 "2019-07-02T22:51:03Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > I was half expecting Fox News to cut away from its regular programming and start playing classical music. A la what the Politburo had TASS do, back in the day? He’s old enough, it shouldn’t be a surprise if it did happen. But whoooo boy, the conspiracy theories… I was dreading and, like you, half-expecting to see Pence’s plane’s call sign on FlightAware change to AF1 at some point in the trip. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401/40 "2019-07-02T23:09:30Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > I note from the article on the Russian submersible that it is small enough to be used for “special operations”. > > Maybe I’ve read too many Tom Clancys, but does “special ops” include clandestine exflitrations of assets whose cover have been blown and they need to get out quickly? > > And of course, you need a plausible cover story as to why the submersible is away from its home port during the exfiltration - “fire on-board” might do it. > > Just thinking, that’s all… Reading a statement from Sergei Shoygu, Defense Minister, Russian Federation, that six or so of the dead were “Captains of the First Rank”, which AIUI, is roughly equivalent to a USN O-6, I’m guessing this was a ‘show off our new toy to the brass’ voyage that went awry. Like what happened with USS Thresher. Even given the stereotype that officers do all the work in the Soviet/Russian Navy, 6 Captains seems like an awful lot of gold braid for just mapping the local seafloor. > **[Fire on Russian submersible vessel kills at least 14 sailors ](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/fire-on-russian-submersible-vessel-kills-at-least-14-sailors/2019/07/02/d0e327da-9cd0-11e9-83e3-45fded8e8d2e_story.html)** > > The incident took place Monday during a mission to map the depths of the Barents Sea, the Russian Defense Ministry said.   Nifty sub, on paper. Like a gigantic, nuclear powered version of Alvin or the defunct Sea Cliff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-president-pence-recalled-to-dc/836401.md?page=3)