# Vice Presidential \[2020\] candidates **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 5, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976 "2020-03-05T20:50:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/61 "2020-03-06T13:35:09Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > …the Evangelicals will be pissed off that she took Pence’s spot. If the evangelicals can stomach Trump, I’m sure they can come to terms with Haley. It shouldn’t even be that hard. I’m sure she’s more of a true believer for the issues that concern them than Trump is. Swapping her for Pence would be basically a wash I would think. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/62 "2020-03-06T13:35:16Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > But she’ll have the stench of Trump all over her and the Evangelicals will be pissed off that she took Pence’s spot. I’m convinced that there is literally nothing a Republican could do to lose the Evangelical vote. They’d be wetting their pants saying “Ooooh, she was anointed by The Chosen One! All hail Nikki!” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/63 "2020-03-06T13:39:37Z")
Haley would only take it if she thinks being even further tied to Trump would help her in a general election. I doubt she feels that way, but we’ll see. She’s already a top-tier Republican candidate for 24 and 28. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/64 "2020-03-06T14:17:42Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > [Tammy Duckworth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Duckworth#Military_service) retired as a lieutenant colonel. But everybody seems to sweat risking senate seats. They sweat them where the governor is the opposite party from the senator in question and would likely flip the seat with his/her interim appointment. While MA and VT have GOP governors right now, Illinois has a Dem. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/65 "2020-03-06T14:21:19Z")
I hope Warren throws her support behind Biden and I hope he offers her the VP position and she accepts. Seems to me, Warren has already lost once in this round and it would be foolish of her to bet on Sanders and lose again. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/66 "2020-03-06T14:25:00Z")
Haley’s most famous action as Governor of SC was to remove the Confederate flag from the state buildings after the Charleston shooting. I don’t know if some of Trump’s would appreciate a former Governor who not only did that but continues to defend that action. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/67 "2020-03-06T15:09:00Z")
Duckworth is not well-liked by many career soldiers. She is perceived as a hot-dog who put lives at risk when she was shot down. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/68 "2020-03-06T15:17:43Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > … I’m not sold on the “gotta be a woman” notion. Whitmer would be tolerable, Harris would be awesome but I’d much prefer her to be AG with a mission to put the current crime syndicate in the White House behind bars. I’d like Corey Booker or Deval Patrick. Julian Castro would go a long way to getting the Latino vote. One thing I think is given: it will not be a white male. Some of the best choices, for being ready to step in, for being positioned to leverage the position to win in 2024 if Biden is one term for age/health, for helping bring some utility, of one sort or the other, to the ticket, happen to be women. No “gotta” but that is where the quality is this cycle. Harris did not have a winning Democratic campaign strategy for this crowded field season but she is experienced, smart, and capable, and running from VP is a different sort of race for the nom and in the general. She ticks several utility boxes, and Biden seems to like her even after her attempted take down of him. I think it will be her. I still am rooting for Baldwin though. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/69 "2020-03-06T18:20:31Z")
I don’t know - Biden’s thing is that he appeals to black voters. Picking Harris to appeal _more_ to black voters might help if it improves turnout. Same for Booker, I suppose. I still think Biden needs someone with some semblance of charisma, which would mean Buttigieg. Or, more probably, someone who didn’t run for the nomination at all. Did any of the candidates apart from Sanders win their home states? I don’t believe Klobuchar did. Which presents a problem if Biden needs a VP to try to pick up a swing state. Biden will win California and New York as long as he doesn’t drool or drop dead during the debates, and possibly even if he does. He needs states like Michigan and Wisconsin that the Dems lost. Regards, Shodan PS - it doesn’t matter who Sanders picks for his VP. He isn’t going to get the nom, and if he does, nothing is going to help him in the general. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/70 "2020-03-06T18:32:48Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > But she’ll have the stench of Trump all over her and the Evangelicals will be pissed off that she took Pence’s spot. In this scenario, does Trump have to overtly ditch Pence? Or can he say, in private, _hey, I want to go out there and tell everyone that you’ve offered your resignation; and that I said ‘no, Mike, you can stay on as VP’; and that you said ‘I appreciate that, Mister President, but I feel I should step down’. How does that sound?_ ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/71 "2020-03-06T18:35:22Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t know - Biden’s thing is that he appeals to black voters. Picking Harris to appeal _more_ to black voters might help if it improves turnout. Same for Booker, I suppose. > > I still think Biden needs someone with some semblance of charisma, which would mean Buttigieg. Or, more probably, someone who didn’t run for the nomination at all. > > Did any of the candidates apart from Sanders win their home states? I don’t believe Klobuchar did. Which presents a problem if Biden needs a VP to try to pick up a swing state. Biden will win California and New York as long as he doesn’t drool or drop dead during the debates, and possibly even if he does. He needs states like Michigan and Wisconsin that the Dems lost. > > Regards, > Shodan > > PS - it doesn’t matter who Sanders picks for his VP. He isn’t going to get the nom, and if he does, nothing is going to help him in the general. Shodan I say this as nicely as I can, but have you been paying _any_ attention to events at all??? Klobuchar dropped before her state voted on Tuesday and endorse Biden. That action is widely credited with giving Biden his surprising win there. She is very popular there. Bernie won Vermont but who cares? Warren lost Massachusetts. Indiana has yet to vote. In terms of Black voters - Biden won the older 45 Black voter group handily and run about even with Sanders for those under 45. Excited about Biden they are not. Biden running is not in and in itself enough to get the less likely to vote younger Black voter cohort to vote as much as they did for Obama. Signaling inclusivity may help get the less likely younger Black voters off their asses. Indeed it won’t impact margin much, and Obama level turnout is still unlikely, but a bit closer is a big deal in key states if it is accomplished. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/72 "2020-03-06T18:39:57Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Did any of the candidates apart from Sanders win their home states? I don’t believe Klobuchar did. Which presents a problem if Biden needs a VP to try to pick up a swing state. She didn’t but she also endorsed Biden before the vote, so only the most die-hard supporters would have stilled voted for her. I wonder if there was any polling in MN to show how she was doing? ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/73 "2020-03-06T19:20:21Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > She didn’t but she also endorsed Biden before the vote, so only the most die-hard supporters would have stilled voted for her. I wonder if there was any polling in MN to show how she was doing? Her campaign manager said she was ahead of Sanders before she dropped out. So maybe her coattails, at least in Minnesota, are longer than I thought. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/74 "2020-03-06T19:21:12Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > [Tammy Duckworth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Duckworth#Military_service) retired as a lieutenant colonel. But everybody seems to sweat risking senate seats. The Governor of Illinois is a Democrat, and he will still be in office in January. Unless he pulls a Blagojovich and sells the seat, he’ll choose another Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/75 "2020-03-06T19:21:30Z")
For Biden the essentials in my opinion would be younger, female and not from the Northeast or California. (Sorry Kamala.) Beyond that I have don’t really know although I would say I don’t see Stacy Abrams as having the experience to be next in line to be POTUS to a man in his late 70’s. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/76 "2020-03-06T19:24:10Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > For Bernie she’s one of the few Democrats who is also not part of the establishment. She would tick off the boxes of being young and a woman while avoiding the box of being mainstream. But everybody in the Democratic Party hates her. Both sides. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/77 "2020-03-06T20:29:52Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, no, Warren’s over 70! Warren at “over 70” has plenty of energy. And she has PLANS! Biden could smile and make gaffes left and right while she puts together initiatives and Gits Stuff Done. I didn’t think she could beat Trump for the top spot, but I think she’d make a great VP. ---
**Author:** ![Anny\_Middon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc79bd/32.png) [@Anny\_Middon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anny_Middon)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/78 "2020-03-06T21:12:12Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’d love to see Mike offer to shake his hand only to be kissed on the lips by Pete. > [A CNN analyst says it’s a certainty that Pence is dumped for Nikki Haley](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/paul-begala-donald-trump-mike-pence_n_5e5dffb4c5b67ed38b37bde1) I take a lot of stock in that. > [ul] > [li]It allows Donald to troll the Democratic convention and steal some of the spotlight from Biden[/li][li]Pence adds nothing, Nikki Haley has two X chromosomes and might attract some female voters[/li][li]Donald loves to stick the shiv into people no matter how loyal they have been to him. Loyalty is a one-way street with him[/li][/ul] > > I’m not sold on the “gotta be a woman” notion. Whitmer would be tolerable, Harris would be awesome but I’d much prefer her to be AG with a mission to put the current crime syndicate in the White House behind bars. I’d like Corey Booker or Deval Patrick. Julian Castro would go a long way to getting the Latino vote. One thing I think is given: it will not be a white male. I agree that Trump would like to dump Pence. In fact, I think that’s why he named Pence to head the coronavirus group – if Pence (whose track record on such things appears to be poor) actually succeeds, then Trump gets to crow about what a great job the Trump Administration did; if Pence fails, it gives Trump an excuse to dump him. If you look at the first two reasons above, there’s one person whom I think Trump would find ideal – Ivanka Trump. And since loyalty is indeed so important to him, I think he feels her loyalty is unquestioned. (Don’t tell me that the powers-that-be in the GOP would never allow this. How many times have they not given Trump something he wanted?) ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2020, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/79 "2020-03-06T21:44:09Z")
Dumping a vice president is a risky move. It’s probably an unnecessary risk from Parscale’s perspective. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2020, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976/80 "2020-03-07T00:36:37Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Warren at “over 70” has plenty of energy. And she has PLANS! Biden could smile and make gaffes left and right while she puts together initiatives and Gits Stuff Done. > > I didn’t think she could beat Trump for the top spot, but I think she’d make a great VP. Biden’s Veep’s main task is to function after he croaks. Pick a candidate for that priority. > [@Gyrate](#): > > …Duckworth would counterbalance Biden well… Back in the day, Brits named Duckworth and Costin started a race-car engine company. The firm is Cosworth. Their other option would have been Ducktin, which lacks a certain elegance. A Biden-Duckworth ticket… would their combo be called Bidworth or Ducken? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-2020-candidates/848976.md?page=5)