# Vice Presidential Debate Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 7, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999 "2012-10-07T16:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/201 "2012-10-12T02:09:40Z")
> [@BigAppleBucky](#): > > Definitely wrong. AARP is for it. I’m a member, but was somewhat reluctant to join since they are so reflexively anti-decreases in benefits to seniors. In looking into it further just now it appears they don’t want Obama claiming AARP support for Obamacare because AARP wants to appear politically neutral. Moderator just let Biden run amok again and flat out insisted on changing the subject so Ryan couldn’t respond. I’ll admit Biden is doing a better job and seems more authoritative than Ryan, but this friggin’ moderator might as well be waving pom poms and doing cartwheels in a short skirt, yelling “Go, Joe, kick that point!” All in all though, a reversal of the presidential debate though at least Ryan is attentive and engaged. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/202 "2012-10-12T02:10:22Z")
Re: Syria, well, I don’t think we need another ground war in the Middle East either. So, what if Turkey goes all in? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/203 "2012-10-12T02:10:50Z")
Ryan, the question was about Syria, not Russia. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/204 "2012-10-12T02:12:05Z")
I like Biden’s “really…” (or if you will, “WTF?”) reaction look we’ve seen a few times tonight. He can pull that well – Obama trying it would just look arrogant. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/205 "2012-10-12T02:12:17Z")
I see Biden giving Ryan lots of time to talk… and lots of rope to hang himself. And Ryan’s doing a beautiful job at it. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/206 "2012-10-12T02:12:31Z")
Ryan: “Fuck the UN.” Er, so to speak. There’s a bone to the conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/207 "2012-10-12T02:13:38Z")
Apparently, Ryan’s plan for “What if Assad stays in power?” is for the White House to acquire a time machine. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/208 "2012-10-12T02:13:44Z")
Shoulda woulda coulda. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/209 "2012-10-12T02:14:05Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Ryan: “Fuck the UN.” Er, so to speak. > > There’s a bone to the conservatives. And Biden says the same thing. Biden seems really angry. Angry, like why are you asking me all these questions? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/210 "2012-10-12T02:14:24Z")
Oh, yes, tell us your worldwide criteria for intervention, Ryan. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/211 "2012-10-12T02:14:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I’ll admit Biden is doing a better job and seems more authoritative than Ryan, but this friggin’ moderator might as well be waving pom poms and doing cartwheels in a short skirt, yelling “Go, Joe, kick that point!” I think she’s doing a fair and balanced job. It’s certainly reasonable (and neutral) to press him on the specifics in his tax plan when he’s notorious for refusing to talk about the specifics. ---
**Author:** ![Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Curiosity_Kills_Her)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/212 "2012-10-12T02:14:35Z")
Did he just say “American troops on the bomb?” I swear I heard that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/213 "2012-10-12T02:15:00Z")
Ryan: “We can only put troops on the ground when it’s on our national security interests.” Was that true of the Iraq war which you voted for, Congressman? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/214 "2012-10-12T02:15:27Z")
Moderator: No humanitarian reasons for intervention in other nations? Ryan: … ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/215 "2012-10-12T02:15:36Z")
> [@Curiosity\_Kills\_Her](#): > > Did he just say “American troops on the bomb?” > > I swear I heard that. Yes, he did. Slip of the lip. Now we’re going go all God on each other. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/216 "2012-10-12T02:15:55Z")
So just off this narrative, it sounds like the Republicans are going to be screaming Moderator Bias. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/217 "2012-10-12T02:16:02Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > It is like Ryan still thinks we should never leave Afghanistan, it is always forever war for guys like him. Exactly right. Ryan: “Those are things that don’t put American troops on the ground.” ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/218 "2012-10-12T02:16:19Z")
Ryan is claiming to be a Catholic? How does that square with his actual religion of Randism? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/219 "2012-10-12T02:16:22Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > All in all though, a reversal of the presidential debate though at least Ryan is attentive and engaged. A fair enough assessment. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/220 "2012-10-12T02:16:52Z")
abortion takes a bow. And Ryan has the BALLS to say he is in public office to protect the vulnerable? He’s delusional. Aw, he lets us whores off the hook for incest and rape. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999.md?page=12)