# Vice Presidential Debate Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 7, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999 "2012-10-07T16:46:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/221 "2012-10-12T02:16:58Z")

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Here’s finally some discussion of reproductive rights.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/222 "2012-10-12T02:17:13Z")

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Obamacare infringing on religous liberties. Oh, please.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/223 "2012-10-12T02:17:35Z")

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Heeere comes BULLSHIT…religion AND science :smack:

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/224 "2012-10-12T02:18:40Z")

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Did a Democratic candidate just out-God the Republican candidate?

Holy smokes.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/225 "2012-10-12T02:20:35Z")

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Well, all I can say, Mssrs Biden and Ryan, is if you both believe life begins at conception, IMO you are both wrong.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/226 "2012-10-12T02:20:44Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I think she’s doing a **fair and balanced job**. It’s certainly reasonable (and neutral) to press him on the specifics in his tax plan when he’s notorious for refusing to talk about the specifics.

…I see what you did there…

But, sure, let’s have co-moderators Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity in some future debate 😃

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/227 "2012-10-12T02:21:11Z")

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Good, good move by Joe: “(2 SC Justices) that’s how close Roe v Wade is.”

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/228 "2012-10-12T02:22:05Z")

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Oh yuck. Who gives a shit what two men think about a woman’s reproductive system based on their religious beliefs? The Catholic church is run by sexist, celibate old men who see woman only as vessels and nothing else. The last thing I want to is a country run by an overseas organization that shields pedophiles and nazis and tells women we are worth less than a fucking fertilized embryo.

Fuck the religious liberty argument. Your freedom of religion is not absolute. If the Catholic church does not like the rules of this country’s health care system the fucking Catholic church should get out of our health care system. American women would be far better off if they did.

Shove it, Ryan. You’re a Taliban wannabe on this issue.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/229 "2012-10-12T02:22:27Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Well, all I can say, Mssrs Biden and Ryan, is if you both believe life begins at conception, IMO you are both wrong.

Yes, but Biden doesn’t want us all to live under his belief. That’s the difference.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/230 "2012-10-12T02:22:37Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Well, all I can say, Mssrs Biden and Ryan, is if you both believe life begins at conception, IMO you are both wrong.

But Biden says its personal belief, Ryan believes it should be policy. It’s a hell of a difference.

ETA: Nice simul post, Rigs!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/231 "2012-10-12T02:24:04Z")

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Biden: SuperPACS are an abomination. Glad to hear we’re going to stop using them then.

What?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/232 "2012-10-12T02:24:17Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Yes, but Biden doesn’t want us all to live under his belief. That’s the difference.

Exactly, that’s such a huge difference. I don’t care what religion a politician is, just don’t make me wear your weird hat.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/233 "2012-10-12T02:25:02Z")

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Moderator asks what to say to a man who complains about negative campaigning.

Ryan answers by engaging in negative campaigning.

Stay classy, Paul.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/234 "2012-10-12T02:25:04Z")

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Biden is on the coast to home at this point, and is closing well. Ryan is taking the exactly wrong tack with this.

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**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/235 "2012-10-12T02:25:07Z")

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If you don’t have a good record to run on. . ."

Ryan’s a broken record.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/236 "2012-10-12T02:25:16Z")

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Moderator to Biden/Ryan: What do you tell this soldier who is so dismayed by the negative ads?

Biden/Ryan: My opponents are poopy-pants!

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/237 "2012-10-12T02:25:45Z")

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Good reminder, Mr. Biden. YOUR son served in Iraq. Romney has five sons. Not a single one has served in Iraq.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/238 "2012-10-12T02:25:53Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> But Biden says its personal belief, Ryan believes it should be policy. It’s a hell of a difference.

Oh, believe me, I agree on that point.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/239 "2012-10-12T02:25:54Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Biden: SuperPACS are an abomination. Glad to hear we’re going to stop using them then.
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> What?

This strikes me as silly, though. One can think SuperPACS are an abominable policy without thinking their use is essentially evil. A world without them would be better, but given that they’re in the world, it’d be ridiculous not to use them.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/240 "2012-10-12T02:26:14Z")

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Projection, projection, projection by Ryan. So much for Ryan being embarrassed about the tone of this campaign.

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