# Vice Presidential Debate Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 7, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999 "2012-10-07T16:46:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/241 "2012-10-12T02:27:18Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> So just off this narrative, it sounds like the Republicans are going to be screaming Moderator Bias.

They were screaming that _before_ the debate.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/242 "2012-10-12T02:27:20Z")

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I see they found the lost _Munsters_ episode “Grandpa Beats Up Eddie”.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/243 "2012-10-12T02:27:26Z")

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This has been a barn burner. Bravo to Biden.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/244 "2012-10-12T02:28:33Z")

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Ryan’s not talking about HIMSELF, which is what the moderator asked. He’s an automaton.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/245 "2012-10-12T02:28:38Z")

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Moderator: “What can you bring to the vice presidency that nobody else can?”

Ryan: “…Honestly?”

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/246 "2012-10-12T02:29:20Z")

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Biden bringing it back to the middle class.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/247 "2012-10-12T02:30:32Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> This has been a barn burner. Bravo to Biden.

Agreed. Could we have these guys for the other two debates instead?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/248 "2012-10-12T02:30:58Z")

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As an Obama supporter, this debate performance makes me feel a little better that the campaign has decided to take debates seriously. But the VP debate just isn’t going to be nearly enough to turn the late trend towards Romney around- not enough people watching, and people don’t care that much about VPs anyway. Obama needs to pick up his game next week and be just as strong as Biden was tonight.

I’m not close to panic, though… Ohio is still strong for Obama, and with OH, he just needs one more state.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/249 "2012-10-12T02:31:33Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Biden: SuperPACS are an abomination. Glad to hear we’re going to stop using them then.
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> What?

Yeah, and I’m not going to vote for the “Violence sucks, so we’ll replace the Department of Defense with the Department of Singing KumBaYa”, either.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/250 "2012-10-12T02:31:52Z")

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Ryan repeating the same talking points in his closing statement.

And here I thought Romney had zero charisma.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/251 "2012-10-12T02:31:58Z")

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I want Biden vs Romney!

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/252 "2012-10-12T02:32:00Z")

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“Mitt Romney and I want to _earn_ your support.”

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/253 "2012-10-12T02:32:12Z")

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Ryan should learn that he should not attempt to condescend to someone who is so much older and a statesman to boot.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/254 "2012-10-12T02:33:00Z")

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That’s it.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/255 "2012-10-12T02:33:10Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> I see they found the lost _Munsters_ episode “Grandpa Beats Up Eddie”.

Comedian Nick Kroll: “Paul Ryan looks like if Eddie Munster fucked Howdy Doody.”  
Biden fucking killed it, I have to say. Hell, even Martha kicked Ryan’s ass in this debate.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/256 "2012-10-12T02:33:22Z")

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…and that’s all she wrote.

Can we call this one for Biden, then?

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/257 "2012-10-12T02:33:46Z")

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Biden won hands down. This was an even bigger rout than his session with Sarah Palin. He was likeable, informed, thoughtful, passionate and presidential. Obama did good when he picked him.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/258 "2012-10-12T02:34:08Z")

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Is Fox saying Ryan won?

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/259 "2012-10-12T02:34:09Z")

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Post-debate analysis. On ABC.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/260 "2012-10-12T02:34:36Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> …and that’s all she wrote.
> 
> Can we call this one for Biden, then?

By a mile. I really don’t think I’m being partisan here.

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