# Vice Presidential Debate Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 7, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999 "2012-10-07T16:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![johnpost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnpost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/johnpost)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/261 "2012-10-12T02:34:46Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Moderator: “What can you bring to the vice presidency that nobody else can?” > > Ryan: “…Honestly?” that was a good chuckle. ---
**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/262 "2012-10-12T02:35:16Z")
Wolf blitzer seems to think it was a draw. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/263 "2012-10-12T02:35:29Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > This has been a barn burner. Bravo to Biden. Really? Admittedly I did not watch the whole thing but I got a good part of it and was not happy at all with Biden’s performance. Mind you I say this as someone implacably opposed to Romney/Ryan. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/264 "2012-10-12T02:36:08Z")
ABC News: “Biden won”. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/265 "2012-10-12T02:36:17Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > As an Obama supporter, this debate performance makes me feel a little better that the campaign has decided to take debates seriously. But the VP debate just isn’t going to be nearly enough to turn the late trend towards Romney around- not enough people watching, and people don’t care that much about VPs anyway. Indeed. VP debates are not decisive (Bentsen v. Quayle) – the headliners win it or lose it and it’s all on their shoulders… ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/266 "2012-10-12T02:36:23Z")
Biden was great. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/267 "2012-10-12T02:37:01Z")
Mark Shields on PBS just slipped up and referred to “President Biden.” Heh. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/268 "2012-10-12T02:37:18Z")
Ryan got a spankin’. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/269 "2012-10-12T02:37:25Z")
I only caught the last 45 minutes of this debate (work interfered; damn you gainful employment!) but Biden came across as strong and very informed. Ryan came across as just another Fox News Republican. Was the first 45 minutes any different? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/270 "2012-10-12T02:37:43Z")
Now on ABC they are discussing “how much this moves the needle”. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/271 "2012-10-12T02:38:12Z")
CNN Poll currently running 64% Biden, 36% Ryan. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/272 "2012-10-12T02:38:27Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I only caught the last 45 minutes of this debate (work interfered; damn you gainful employment!) but Biden came across as strong and very informed. Ryan came across as just another Fox News Republican. Was the first 45 minutes any different? I thought Biden dominated nearly the whole time. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/273 "2012-10-12T02:38:55Z")
Narrative #1, I think. Toss-up. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/274 "2012-10-12T02:39:45Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I only caught the last 45 minutes of this debate (work interfered; damn you gainful employment!) but Biden came across as strong and very informed. Ryan came across as just another Fox News Republican. Was the first 45 minutes any different? No. But we do know now that Ryan is very conversant on the progression of the seasons of the year. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/275 "2012-10-12T02:40:09Z")
Republican analysis on ABC (didn’t catch her name) said the Libya consolate attack is a “growing scandal”. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/276 "2012-10-12T02:42:27Z")
Two words that I’ve heard used that I agree with: Biden seemed very passionate. Ryan seemed very shallow. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/277 "2012-10-12T02:43:32Z")
> [@](#): > > …said the Libya consolate attack is a “growing scandal”. Perfectly fair, we all know how sternly disapproving Republicans can be when it comes to bad decisions based on faulty intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/278 "2012-10-12T02:44:00Z")
So Romney should be president because he will create jobs, with all that money he has, where are the start ups or new business made by him after leaving Bain? Besides the accounting ones here and in the caiman islands? Or are the trusts that he and his family manages do create a lot of jobs? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/279 "2012-10-12T02:44:16Z")
Van Jones on CNN: “Biden put a lot of fact-checkers out of work tonight.” ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/280 "2012-10-12T02:44:32Z")
Biden was good. I don’t think he was the victor of each round, but I think he came out as the superior candidate. But damn, that man needs to stay away from numbers. “Eight million billion” came out of his mouth a couple of times. The reversals in his speech made me wince. That said, Ryan looked very young compared to Biden, and not in a good way. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999.md?page=15)