# Vice Presidential Debate Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 7, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999 "2012-10-07T16:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/301 "2012-10-12T02:55:55Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “Vote for Romney - He’ll come to your house for Christmas.” Yep, whenever Biden put him in a corner, Ryan went to semi-relevant personal anecdote. Then again, Republicans don’t believe in helping people they don’t know personally, so maybe that scored him a point or two with the base. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/302 "2012-10-12T02:56:31Z")
CNN fact-check says; - Biden was correct about Ryan voting to cut embassy funding. - Ryan was incorrect about Iran having enough enriched uranium to build five bombs. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/303 "2012-10-12T02:57:30Z")
I thought Diane Sawyer was gonna orgasm with delight over Biden’s performance tonight. She’s still going on about “Malarky” even now. How people can’t see these news people’s bias is astounding to me. ---
**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/304 "2012-10-12T02:58:08Z")
> [@Jesus of Nazareth](#): > > I was put off by the religion question. I wish they would leave me out of these things. Oh, Jesus Christ… ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/305 "2012-10-12T02:58:30Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I thought Diane Sawyer was gonna orgasm with delight over Biden’s performance tonight. She’s still going on about “Malarky” even now. How people can’t see these news people’s bias is astounding to me. Somehow I don’t think Wolf Blitzer will orgasm with delight.. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/306 "2012-10-12T02:58:42Z")
CNN’s focus group of undecided voters is a three-way tie between “Biden won”, “Ryan won”, and “Tie”. Who _are_ these people? ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/307 "2012-10-12T03:00:20Z")
ABC ending debate coverage. Changing channel to CNN for post-debate analysis in this last hour of this 24-hour news cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/308 "2012-10-12T03:01:12Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Stolen and Facebooked. I’ll pass on all the “likes.” Shamelessly stolen by me as well. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/309 "2012-10-12T03:01:31Z")
Biden’s performance was calculated to excite liberals. It did that. but understand that the way liberals saw that debate is not the same way everyone else did. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/310 "2012-10-12T03:01:37Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > CNN’s focus group of undecided voters is a three-way tie between “Biden won”, “Ryan won”, and “Tie”. > > Who _are_ these people? Probably the kind of people who have no interest in politics and don’t follow the news. Why else would anyone be undecided at this point?? ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/311 "2012-10-12T03:01:41Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > On women’s rights: nailed the fact that one man’s religious-based opinion should not dictate what everyone else should have to abide by. Not that the public at large gives a nanoshit, but he underscored something that is more or less taboo in politics: the difference between morality, which is basically personal, and ethics, which are usually societal. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/312 "2012-10-12T03:02:29Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Biden’s performance was calculated to excite liberals. It did that. but understand that the way liberals saw that debate is not the same way everyone else did. You don’t think the polls are gonna show a Biden victory? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/313 "2012-10-12T03:02:32Z")
MSNBC had a good point, I think, a moment ago. Less than 48 hours ago, Romney made a big deal about, IIRC not being aware of any coming anti-abortion legislation that he’d support. Here was Ryan, tonight,basically saying that if elected, he’d work to ban aboption for all but rape and life-threatening conditions. Not that this was an unknowqn position, but I have a feeling the Democrats will be highlighting that, er, dissonant message over the next few days. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/314 "2012-10-12T03:03:09Z")
> [@Richard\_Parker](#): > > You don’t think the polls are gonna show a Biden victory? Looks unlikely at this point. Pundits say its a draw, CNN focus groups say it’s a draw. Waiting on CNN’s flash poll. ---
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/315 "2012-10-12T03:03:10Z")
@Smapti Probably people who watched the debate. I dunno what debate you guys and gals were watching, but Ryan presented himself fairly well while Biden looked like that old, drunken uncle you try to avoid at family gatherings. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/316 "2012-10-12T03:03:28Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Biden’s performance was calculated to excite liberals. It did that. but understand that the way liberals saw that debate is not the same way everyone else did. We 47% are difficult that way. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/317 "2012-10-12T03:04:29Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Looks unlikely at this point. Pundits say its a draw, CNN focus groups say it’s a draw. Waiting on CNN’s flash poll. I know we’re waiting. But you seem to be claiming liberals are wrong to claim victory. So you obviously think the polls will show a tie or Ryan win, right? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/318 "2012-10-12T03:04:42Z")
Biden won’t get 47%. he’ll be lucky to get 40% saying he won. My early prediction: Biden 38%, Ryan 32%, draw 30%. ---
**Author:** ![WreckingCrew](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wreckingcrew/32/4080_2.png) [@WreckingCrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WreckingCrew)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/319 "2012-10-12T03:07:36Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I thought Diane Sawyer was gonna orgasm with delight over Biden’s performance tonight. She’s still going on about “Malarky” even now. How people can’t see these news people’s bias is astounding to me. I know, anyone who has ever worked for a President shouldn’t be allowed on TV at all. Oh wait, you probably like Nixon don’t you, never mind then. ---
**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999/320 "2012-10-12T03:08:56Z")
> [@scr4](#): > > Probably the kind of people who have no interest in politics and don’t follow the news. Why else would anyone be undecided at this point?? Gee, which one of these opposites should I vote for? :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vice-presidential-debate-thread/636999.md?page=17)