# Vicious Canadians

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 8, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887 "2023-01-08T19:19:31Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![K364](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k364/32/5_2.png) [@K364](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/K364)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/41 "2023-01-11T18:17:25Z")

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But try going through out-of-turn. You’d think that WW3 had started.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/42 "2023-01-11T18:21:28Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> If you want to call Tiger Williams, Tie Domi and Dave Semenko European communists, go ahead …

Well, not to their face. I have all my teeth and would like to keep it that way! 😃

Except Semenko, I guess, because he’s dead.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/43 "2023-01-11T18:23:46Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Except Semenko, I guess, because he’s dead.

That just means he is a _good_ communist.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/44 "2023-01-11T18:31:03Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> Goalies are skilled, patient, methodical, and never fight.

Hehehe, just in case this isn’t a joke, let me introduce you to Eddie Belfour, well-known Canadian:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/VuOpB2rpYJg/hqdefault.jpg "Sharks - Stars brawl (Belfour) 97-98 playoffs") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuOpB2rpYJg)

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/45 "2023-01-11T19:21:28Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Hehehe, just in case this isn’t a joke, let me introduce you to Eddie Belfour, well-known Canadian:

I knew this might come up. But Belfour was one of those rare exceptions that prove the rule. I hated the bastard, but assholes like that (as goalies) are rare. Consider, instead, Curtis Joseph (“Cujo”) or Carey Price. When my son was a kid he had a picture that Cujo signed for him, and a poster of him up on his bedroom wall. The best athletes are ambassadors to the future generation and contributors to the community. Many other ones, not so much.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/46 "2023-01-11T19:37:59Z")

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Interesting. In Vietnam, the ROK Marines had the rep for the baddest mothers in the valley.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/47 "2023-01-11T20:02:26Z")

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Oh, you’re actually serious? Goalies don’t fight often because there’s only one replacement suited up. They really don’t seem to be pacifists, as a breed.

Cam Talbot, Canadian contributes to causing a brawl:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/nmmVD_YrK-Y/maxresdefault.jpg "GOTTA SEE IT: Goalie Fight! Mike Smith Fights Cam Talbot As Oilers & Flames Erupt In Line Brawl") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmmVD_YrK-Y)

Patrick Roy’s been in more than one fight:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/G7LZbJhi6Fo/hqdefault.jpg "Patrick Roy vs Mike Vernon Mar 26, 1997") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7LZbJhi6Fo)

Price could have not thrown the one punch in this fight:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cJx3TCUEcOA/hqdefault.jpg "NHL: Tim Thomas vs Carey Price Goaltender Fight 2/9/11") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJx3TCUEcOA)

And just so you don’t think I’m picking on Canadians, Brent Johnson, also has kind of a habit.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/kJJ-nBknX9Y/maxresdefault.jpg "Brent Johnson vs Micheal Haley fight and brawl") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJ-nBknX9Y)

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/48 "2023-01-11T23:38:11Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Others were cold-blooded executions. In one case, a Canadian surreptitiously slipped a live grenade into the greatcoat pockets of a German prisoner.

I am very skeptical of that story. Unless you are putting it in the pocket of a dude as you push him off a cliff that would kill him anyway, I really don’t see anyone taking such a stupid risk.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/49 "2023-01-12T02:17:02Z")

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Canadians are (were) well kmown for their warfighting capability. We punched WAY above our weight in WWI, WWII, Korea, and Afghanistan. For quite a while, Canadian peacekeepers were in conflict zones around the world. A Canadian sniper holds the record for longest kill (or did - haven’t checked recently). The last Top Gun contest in the U.S. was won by the Canadians. Canada used to beat the rest of NATO so badly in European wargames that they started informally calling it “The Canada Cup”.

JTF-2, our special forces, are considered among the best in the world. You haven’t heard much about them because they do not promote themselves and prefer secrecy.

> **[Canada’s elite commandos and the invasion of Afghanistan](https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/canada-s-elite-commandos-and-the-invasion-of-afghanistan/article_4eca6bf9-3b6c-5d58-9ab7-a7fed02b6fb4.html)**
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> A Star investigation reveals the inside story of Canada’s elite team of commandos and the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan.

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> They were curious because they didn’t really know us,” the soldier said. “At the beginning, people said, ‘Who the f— is JTF2?’”
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> That question was answered when they saw the Canadians in action.
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> After that first joint mission, Task Force K-Bar commander Rear Adm. Bob Harward, a U.S. Navy Seal, was full of praise for his coalition team.
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> “This is the first coalition direct action mission since the Second World War,” he told them
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> Direct action refers to the special forces practice of sweeping down on an unsuspecting enemy, usually under the cover of night, for lightning-quick strikes to capture or destroy a target.
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> “You guys all pass into history right now,” Harward said.
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> Harward would later profess that his JTF2 team was his first choice for any “direct action” mission.

It says something that the leader of the SEALs, himself a SEAL, prefers JTF-2 for ‘direct action missions’.

Unfortunately, the military here is grossly underfunded now and losing capability.

We did, however, order 88 F-35s recently.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vicious-canadians/977887/50 "2023-01-12T19:35:13Z")

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You guys are being nice to Lockheed-Martin.

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