# Vick Pleads Out **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 20, 2007, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283 "2007-08-20T19:31:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/81 "2007-08-24T22:31:02Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] Vick to Roger Goodell, “I am shocked! I’m shocked to find that gambling is going on here!” [/QUOTE] “The winnings of your enterprise that aren’t yours, no way, no how, sir…” ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2007, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/82 "2007-08-24T22:31:16Z")
[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus] Vick to Roger Goodell, “I am shocked! I’m shocked to find that gambling is going on here!” [/QUOTE] Right. > [@](#): > > “Mr. Vick apologizes for his poor judgment in associating himself with those involved in dog fighting and realizes he should never have been involved in this conduct,” the statement said. His property, his dogs, his money, his website, and he was just some poor sucker who got “involved” with the wrong people. None of this shit would ever have _happened_ if it had not been for Vick. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2007, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/83 "2007-08-25T01:42:00Z")
[QUOTE=Sampiro] Usually they start as teenagers with Siamese Fighting Fish, work their way up to guinea pigs, and then one day it’s Chihuhuas til finally it’s a Cocker Spaniel- the so-called gateway dog. [/QUOTE] Hey, I’ve been fighting Siamese my whole life and while sure, I’ve fought Gamecocks once or twice (who hasn’t?) I ain’t never even done mammals. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/84 "2007-08-25T01:43:36Z")
Seriously, Vick is a bastard, and while I’m sorry we won’t get to see him play (because he was a great athlete), I am actually reassured to find the public respond so overwhelmingly against this crummy, inhumane treatment of animals. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2007, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/85 "2007-08-25T20:59:42Z")
Why would he be involved at all if he wasn’t gaining _something_ from it? Maybe he didn’t win anything from the purses, but I’ll bet he took in a shitload of money from the “door.” ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/86 "2007-08-26T01:44:32Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] Why would he be involved at all if he wasn’t gaining _something_ from it? Maybe he didn’t win anything from the purses, but I’ll bet he took in a shitload of money from the “door.” [/QUOTE] I truly don’t think he personally got anything at all out of it. My understanding is that he was trying to set up his leeches to be able to sustain themselves instead of living directly off his money. So he absorbed the losses while letting them pocket the winnings, giving them the illusion of having lives. ---
**Author:** ![BlackbirdXXX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3ec8ea/32.png) [@BlackbirdXXX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackbirdXXX)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/87 "2007-08-26T14:25:43Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] That partially depends on what the NFL wants to do How hard is it to refrain from running dog-fighting rings? . [/QUOTE] There are no 12 step programs for this… that I’m aware of. ---
**Author:** ![MN\_Maenad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@MN\_Maenad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MN_Maenad)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2007, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/88 "2007-08-26T15:15:56Z")
[QUOTE=DiosaBellissima] Actor Jamie Foxx (quite the authority) has also gone on the record saying it’s a race thing. According to him, white folks just don’t understand that in the ghetto people fight dogs and it’s not a big deal, so Vick probably didn’t even realize it was illegal (or some such nonsense). [/QUOTE] So let me get this straight - Jamie Foxx is asserting that all black people are poor, ignorant, and too stupid to understand what cruelty to animals is. Who needs the Klan when we have Uncle Toms like him. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/89 "2007-08-27T16:23:07Z")
Vick is even more scum that I thought before. [He’s found Jesus](http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/27/michael.vick/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/90 "2007-08-27T16:54:02Z")
The Falcons have declined to cut Vick. Which suggests to me they want to bring him back after he has served his time. Or possibly trade his rights for whatever they can get. (But I strongly suspect the former is the case.) ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/91 "2007-08-27T17:13:38Z")
[QUOTE=spoke-] The Falcons have declined to cut Vick. Which suggests to me they want to bring him back after he has served his time. Or possibly trade his rights for whatever they can get. (But I strongly suspect the former is the case.) [/QUOTE] There are onerous salary-cap implications to cutting him now. The Falcons will sue (and likely win, IMHO) for $22 million in prorated signing bonus money from Vick. Then he gets his official walking papers. ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/92 "2007-08-27T17:36:07Z")
[QUOTE=spoke-] The Falcons have declined to cut Vick. Which suggests to me they want to bring him back after he has served his time. Or possibly trade his rights for whatever they can get. (But I strongly suspect the former is the case.) [/QUOTE] Pretty much the complete opposite. They haven’t cut him so they can recoup the most amount of money back from his signing bonus and have the most favorable impact to future salary caps. [Story 1](http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/08/25/vickbonus_0826.html) [Story 2](http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/07/09/0710vick.html) ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/93 "2007-08-27T18:05:49Z")
Ah. I see. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/94 "2007-08-27T19:19:36Z")
[QUOTE=dalej42] Vick is even more scum that I thought before. [He’s found Jesus](http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/27/michael.vick/index.html) [/QUOTE] Oh, yeh, that got a fall-off-your-chair sarcastic guffaw when I read that. And of course he was met by cheering supporters as he entered the courthouse. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2007, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283/95 "2007-08-27T20:17:55Z")
I watched his statements to the media. It was full of the regular celebrity crap: “I’m immature” “we all make mistakes”, “I used bad judgement”, and the aforementioned “I found Jesus.” Add in more crap about feeling bad about letting down the kids and I’m now more than happy to see him rot in prison for a year. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/vick-pleads-out/416283.md?page=4)