# Victoria Gotti's eulogy for daddy.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 16, 2002, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362 "2002-06-16T14:46:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/1 "2002-06-16T14:46:21Z")

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Victoria Gotti’s eulogy for daddy.

[“THANKS, DAD, FOR TEACHING ME TO CHASE MY DREAMS”](http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/50405.htm)

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> This man of strength and character raised me with old-country values to be a good person, a good wife and a good mother. He also taught me that anything was possible if I set my heart and mind to it. And he taught me to dream.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/2 "2002-06-16T15:04:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by astro \*  
> \*\*Victoria Gotti’s eulogy for daddy.
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> [“THANKS, DAD, FOR TEACHING ME TO CHASE MY DREAMS”](http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/50405.htm)
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> Small part
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> \*\*

Mostly though, Daddy taught me that the only effective way to settle a business dispute with a creep, is to have one of your goombas whack his ass.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/3 "2002-06-16T15:08:35Z")

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Let’s see if I have this right:

To be a great man = Rule by fear and intimidation  
To be well-respected = Kill or maim those who do not respect me  
Got it.

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**Author:** ![whiterose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@whiterose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterose)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/4 "2002-06-16T15:11:49Z")

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He was her father, for God’s sake. Let the lady have her memories! Sheesh.

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**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/5 "2002-06-16T15:14:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whiterose \*  
> \*\*He was her father, for God’s sake. Let the lady have her memories! Sheesh. \*\*

I agree.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/6 "2002-06-16T15:16:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whiterose \*  
> \*\*He was her father, for God’s sake. Let the lady have her memories! Sheesh. \*\*

Uh huh. What next…a loving tribute to Jeffrey Dahmer’s “appetite for life”, or Timothy McVeigh’s “fierce sense of independence”?

Sorry, when her “memories” are **published** in a newspaper for all to see…she invites reaction.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/7 "2002-06-16T15:31:40Z")

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She can have her memories. What she can not do is put forth her opinions in public without that same public putting forth their opinons.

Let her rot.

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**Author:** ![Venoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/8 "2002-06-16T15:33:51Z")

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Aye.

Though, hopefully, she retained her father’s better qualities (shrewd business sense?) without developing those less desirable ones…

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**Author:** ![whiterose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@whiterose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterose)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/9 "2002-06-16T15:50:34Z")

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Let her rot? Because she loved and respected her father?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/10 "2002-06-16T15:56:41Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whiterose \*  
> \*\*Let her rot? Because she loved and respected her father? \*\*

Absolutely. Even more so for actively promoting a noble myth in memory of her father. The man was evil, and should be recognized as such.

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**Author:** ![beagledave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6de8d8/32.png) [@beagledave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beagledave)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/11 "2002-06-16T15:58:44Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whiterose \*  
> \*\*Let her rot? Because she loved and respected her father? \*\*

Because she took this **public**. She published this bit in a major newspaper in the same town where her father caused great grief and several deaths.

She has maintained a fairly public profile about her father’s actions ever since he was incarerated (I recall her being on Larry King…perhaps other shows as well). This is **not** private grief about the loss of a loved one. This goes beyond that.

Again…you didn’t see the Dahmer family do this, or the McVeigh family or countless other grieving families.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/12 "2002-06-16T17:22:46Z")

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Hmmm…I wonder what her idea of a discpicable, disrespectful character would be…

_shudder_

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2002, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/13 "2002-06-16T17:54:50Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Hmmm…I wonder what her idea of a discpicable, disrespectful character would be…
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> _shudder_ \*\*

Sammy “the Bull” Gravano, maybe.

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**Author:** ![widdershins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f0a364/32.png) [@widdershins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/widdershins)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/14 "2002-06-17T07:34:17Z")

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At least she got to bury her father. Did the family of the neighbor who accidentally hit her brother with his car ever find out what happened to him? Her father, the “man of strength and character”, made the guy disappear. No telling what was done to him before they killed him and or what they did with the body.

If what she said helps her deal with her father’s death, fine, but don’t expect us to share her delusion.

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**Author:** ![Ringo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/779978/32.png) [@Ringo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ringo)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/15 "2002-06-17T07:44:58Z")

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John Gotti was _shit_, and I’m glad that he’s no longer part of the picture.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/16 "2002-06-17T12:48:33Z")

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Vicki doesn’t know that her dada actually did buy her a pony once. But the boys saw it out back, and decided to use its head to intimidate a Hollywood producer.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/17 "2002-06-17T13:12:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by whiterose \*  
> \*\*Let her rot? Because she loved and respected her father? \*\*

Yes. It’s not like she didn’t know who he was or what he did.

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**Author:** ![auntie\_em](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@auntie\_em](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auntie_em)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2002, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/18 "2002-06-17T15:29:39Z")

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I agree that the man was a bastard (for lack of a stronger word at this point…), and that if his daughter is going to make her comments public, she opens herself up to “You’ve got to be kidding, right?”

However, I’m guessing that although this little girl knew what her father did to people, she is also thinking about what he did for her. At the risk of sounding all Kum Ba Ya, remember that even though this was a man who did horrendous things to other people in the name of money and power, he also was probably a guy who loved his daughter, and saw to it that she had everything she needed to make her happy.

I mean, everybody has good and bad attributes, in varying degrees, so even though _we_ might see him as a horrible person, chances are he had good attributes as well.

Note: This also goes for the asshole realtor who sold me my house. As he was busy screwing over everyone in his path, all for a lousy commission, I was forced to realize that this guy has people who love him, people who invite him over for dinner, people who ENJOY HIS COMPANY. Granted, I seriously doubt that this guy’s a murderer, but work with me, here.

So all I’m saying is that the John Gotti WE all saw probably differs a little from the one his daughter saw. I think it’s possible for him to have been both guys in one fucked up package.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2002, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/19 "2002-06-18T01:59:36Z")

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Of course, **auntie** , that goes without saying.

It’s just that much scarier, methinks.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2002, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/victoria-gottis-eulogy-for-daddy/114362/20 "2002-06-18T15:02:35Z")

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Apparently Gotti taught about 19 other men _how to dream_ as well.

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