# Video Game Generation Take Over **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 28, 2010, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776 "2010-06-28T13:05:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Punisher\_11B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9de0a6/32.png) [@Punisher\_11B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punisher_11B)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/121 "2010-06-29T03:18:50Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Well, FUCK YOU!!! I have a Stryker!! I piss on your Hummvee and raise you a turret-launched TOW missle! Booya, the TOWS are awesome, I just don’t like crawling around inside them. We just have the ICV’s. Our company just got a MGS this past week. I can’t wait to see it fire. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/122 "2010-06-29T03:23:54Z")
[Moderating] > [@Punisher\_11B](#): > > wow, and I get yelled at by the moderator twice since I’ve been on this forum and you went from calling me a “Terrorist” to now a “Lousy stinking anarchist manifesto-writer”. This is kind of one sided. He made a comment about your [fictional] shack, and it was even more of an obvious joke than the previous post. He was not being serious and you’d do well to learn how to take a joke. People make a lot of jokes here and they’re not intended as insults. > [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Well, FUCK YOU!!! I have a Stryker!! I piss on your Hummvee and raise you a turret-launched TOW missle! I know you’re kidding, but please refrain from insults like this in GD. [/Moderating] > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Am I the only one who wonders why somebody who (presumably) took his username from an incredibly violent comic book character is bitching about kids playing violent video games? I almost said something about that in my first post. I don’t get it either. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/123 "2010-06-29T04:14:41Z")
> [@Punisher\_11B](#): > > But when this one group of kids came up to me and asked me to shoot it, I told him no it wasnt a toy. Who let these kids away from their Xbox360s? Dammit, they should be at home playing video games. ---
**Author:** ![Gustav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/919ad9/32.png) [@Gustav](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gustav)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/124 "2010-06-29T06:36:48Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > I almost said something about that in my first post. I don’t get it either. I believe you’re thrown off because most people complaining about video games are saying they are too violent, but OP is actually complaining that they aren’t violent _enough_. His concern, as best I can tell, is that the video game generation will be incompetent soldiers, because video games don’t prepare them adequately for actual combat. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/125 "2010-06-29T06:53:04Z")
Clearly we need a new generation of game systems that more accurately reflect the horrors of war. I dunno… KillecoVision or something? ---
**Author:** ![Punisher\_11B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9de0a6/32.png) [@Punisher\_11B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punisher_11B)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/126 "2010-06-29T12:24:28Z")
Let me lay it out again. NEVER ONCE, NOT ONCE, NOT ONE SINGLE TIME, NOT AT ALL, Did I EVERRR complain about violent video games. And some of you tell me that I am taking your posts the wrong way? I don’t care how violent they are, I don’t care if in the next COD you can hit a button and cut off the enemies skin and wear it around. WHATEVER. I like the punisher skull and LOVED what I did in Iraq, I’ve been waiting for a chance to go back. Some of you remind me of politicians, I tell you one thing and you twist it around and tell me what I said. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/127 "2010-06-29T12:43:53Z")
So how long have the kids been on your lawn, Punisher? ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/128 "2010-06-29T12:49:47Z")
> [@Punisher\_11B](#): > > I like the punisher skull and LOVED what I did in Iraq, I’ve been waiting for a chance to go back. Okay, this? This kinda scares me a bit. Kind of a big gulf between “I will do my duty for my country” and “I really, really enjoy going to a warzone, scaring the natives, and shooting people for my country.” The reason I say this is that I wonder if this is just rhetoric or not. Certainly I can envision enjoying just about every aspect of soldiering except the actual “war” part. ---
**Author:** ![Punisher\_11B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9de0a6/32.png) [@Punisher\_11B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punisher_11B)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/129 "2010-06-29T13:50:25Z")
> [@Zeriel](#): > > Okay, this? This kinda scares me a bit. Kind of a big gulf between “I will do my duty for my country” and “I really, really enjoy going to a warzone, scaring the natives, and shooting people for my country.” > > The reason I say this is that I wonder if this is just rhetoric or not. Certainly I can envision enjoying just about every aspect of soldiering except the actual “war” part. I never enjoy killing. But enjoy the lifestyle of being in country doing the job everyday. I was always ready to come home after a deployment, but don’t frown too much when I go back. I didn’t sign up for the college money, or to get stationed somewhere different so that I can get blasted drunk every night. I’m not trying to act tough, when the bullets start flying, yea, I get “puckered”, but I don’t huddle down in my vehicle, throw my weapon out the window and then have a multinational force with the navy seals leading the way to rescue me out of a medical sanctuary. And have it blasted all over the news like it was. NO, I do the job and get it done, and Fing love it. Yes Jessica, I just called you out. We all know your BS story. ---
**Author:** ![Punisher\_11B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9de0a6/32.png) [@Punisher\_11B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punisher_11B)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/130 "2010-06-29T13:51:45Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > So how long have the kids been on your lawn, Punisher? 17 days, 6 hours, 34 minutes. They just wont leave. ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/131 "2010-06-29T14:06:25Z")
> [@Punisher\_11B](#): > > I’m not trying to act tough, when the bullets start flying, yea, I get “puckered”, but I don’t huddle down in my vehicle, throw my weapon out the window and then have a multinational force with the navy seals leading the way to rescue me out of a medical sanctuary. And have it blasted all over the news like it was. NO, I do the job and get it done, and Fing love it. Yes Jessica, I just called you out. We all know your BS story. She, like most if not all of the other personnel in the convoy, were in the Quartermaster Corps. They weren’t combat arms. And at the time of the invasion, big Army in its infinite wisdom, hadn’t emphasized the training-up of non-combat arms personnel for convoy ops. Aside from basic and AIT, I doubt she or most of the other personnel in her convoy had fired their weapons outside of their yearly weapons qualifications. And yes, as you’ve indicated in nearly every other post, you’re infantry. We get it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/132 "2010-06-29T14:06:56Z")
> [@Punisher\_11B](#): > > 17 days, 6 hours, 34 minutes. They just wont leave. So play some of your old-timey music to irritate them into leaving, like _Thong Song_ or something by Destiny’s Child. Something from your own youth that kids today won’t be able to stand. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/133 "2010-06-29T14:09:49Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > So play some of your old-timey music to irritate them into leaving, like _Thong Song_ or something by Destiny’s Child. Something from your own youth that kids today won’t be able to stand. I really don’t think they’re ready for this jelly… ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/134 "2010-06-29T14:24:22Z")
> [@Punisher\_11B](#): > > I never enjoy killing. But enjoy the lifestyle of being in country doing the job everyday. I was always ready to come home after a deployment, but don’t frown too much when I go back. > > I didn’t sign up for the college money, or to get stationed somewhere different so that I can get blasted drunk every night. > > I’m not trying to act tough, when the bullets start flying, yea, I get “puckered”, but I don’t huddle down in my vehicle, throw my weapon out the window and then have a multinational force with the navy seals leading the way to rescue me out of a medical sanctuary. And have it blasted all over the news like it was. NO, I do the job and get it done, and Fing love it. Yes Jessica, I just called you out. We all know your BS story. You can keep that wearing all your gear in that heat. I hated it over there. Maybe the MRE choices are more palatable now than in 1991? Dehydrated pork patty (with bone chips) just never caught on with me, although I confess to a certain lurid pleasure in dehydrated fruit cocktail wafers reconstituting in my mouth with a swig from my trusty canteen. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/135 "2010-06-29T14:42:31Z")
Goddamn, people younger than me are ranting about “Kids these days!” now? When did I get old? 🙂 OP, I am 34 YO and have been playing video games since I was about 10 or so. Thankfully my parents were not farmers, though my grandparents were. Funny how my parents were all, “My daughter is NOT going to be a farmer” and thus brought me to this country. Outdoors is nice and all and I had my share of it…I still ride my bike and have a garden and spend some time outdoors, but damn, there’s mosquitoes out there and it really just isn’t that special, to be honest. I spend as much time on my video games as other people do on TV. I don’t have cable TV and never watch anything on TV - I have a huge DVD collection, but don’t like watching according to a schedule. So? If your nephew and niece spend all their time playing video games and nothing else that’s the parents’ fault…but if I spend a couple of hours playing games every day or whatever, and am still maintaining my job and putting food on the table, that’s my choice. ---
**Author:** ![Punisher\_11B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9de0a6/32.png) [@Punisher\_11B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punisher_11B)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/136 "2010-06-29T17:11:06Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > You can keep that wearing all your gear in that heat. I hated it over there. Maybe the MRE choices are more palatable now than in 1991? Dehydrated pork patty (with bone chips) just never caught on with me, although I confess to a certain lurid pleasure in dehydrated fruit cocktail wafers reconstituting in my mouth with a swig from my trusty canteen. Some of them arent bad anymore. Quite tolerable, but I mostly ate beef jerky. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/137 "2010-06-29T17:22:31Z")
how far back in history would one have to go back to find young kids who genuinely understand what war and death entails? if a young kid’s bravado disturbs you, perhaps you might consider putting up a fence around the lawn? you know, for someone who’s trying to broad brush an entire generation of people, you’re mighty defensive over how you’re viewed in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/138 "2010-06-29T17:23:09Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > So play some of your old-timey music to irritate them into leaving, like _Thong Song_ or something by Destiny’s Child. Something from your own youth that kids today won’t be able to stand. I suggest Twisted Sister’s “We’re not Gonna Take It” crooned into a megaphone. (If you’re into classical.) ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/139 "2010-06-29T17:36:28Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > how far back in history would one have to go back to find young kids who genuinely understand what war and death entails? if a young kid’s bravado disturbs you, perhaps you might consider putting up a fence around the lawn? > > you know, for someone who’s trying to broad brush an entire generation of people, you’re mighty defensive over how you’re viewed in this thread. Unfortunately, you don’t have to go back in history at all, you just have to go across the [globe](http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128010112). I seriously doubt the OP had anything like this in mind, but there are 14 year old girls out there who have had more combat experience than most U.S. Army staff sergeants. I hope we can all agree that no matter how annoying know-it-all dumbass teenagers are, were are better off with them than child soldiers like Uganda. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776/140 "2010-06-29T17:55:55Z")
i should clarify that i was referring to kids who had not experienced the real thing being overly romantic about war. or something like that, what do i know? an army of 30 thousand children? i’m not sure if i would want to read the rest of that article. ☹ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-game-generation-take-over/544776.md?page=6)