# Video: police break into house with children present, shoot dogs, over MJ possession **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 7, 2010, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611 "2010-05-07T07:45:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2010, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/21 "2010-05-07T23:45:30Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Keep suckin’ there, toots! Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “support your local sheriff”. Dude, you look even dumber now that you did after your first post. Srsly. ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/22 "2010-05-08T00:25:03Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > [Article with actual facts in it](http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/may/03/drug-raid-inquiry-is-ongoing/). What’s not clear in the article was whether or not it was a no-knock warrant. I’m finding the use of no-knock warrants is becoming more an more risky from the perspective of putting innocent people at risk. For example the granny that got blown away and the ensuing cover-up, and the innocent mayor and his family whose two dogs were killed. Something about the no-knock system is not working out when it comes to public safety. I have not looked at the video, so perhaps my question re: no-knock this time is answered therein. Edit: Also, on first parse, I thought the “MJ” in the thread title referred to Michael Jackson. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/23 "2010-05-08T01:12:57Z")
> [@Eats\_Crayons](#): > > Also, on first parse, I thought the “MJ” in the thread title referred to Michael Jackson. :smack: Yeah, I am looking to score a half ounce of either Thriller or Off the Wall. ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/24 "2010-05-08T01:13:22Z")
The article indicates that both dogs were shot some time after they entered the home. They reported that the pit was acting in an “uncontrollably aggressive manner”; no reason is given for shooting the corgi in the leg. That probably means that the pit was barking and growling at the strange, yelling, aggressive men who just kicked in the door and were attacking his home and pack members. If he was attacking he would have flown out the door and been shot immediately. I can see no reason at all from the article for shooting the corgi. They could have used less than lethal force on the dog and suspect if necessary, but they decided to use live rounds instead. That smacks of bullshit in my opinion. Especially on a MJ bust. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/25 "2010-05-08T01:34:15Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Dude, you look even dumber now that you did after your first post. Srsly. Omigod! ::Wrings hands:: Some anonymous asshole on a message board thinks I look _dumb_! ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/26 "2010-05-08T01:38:37Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Omigod! ::Wrings hands:: Some anonymous asshole on a message board thinks I look _dumb_! Several, actually. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/27 "2010-05-08T01:45:19Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Several, actually. Oh, stop, or I’m liable to bust out crying. Now go back to diddling yourself. Or, you know, whatever it is you mods do to make yourselves feel important. But wash your fucking hands first, eh? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/28 "2010-05-08T01:49:52Z")
Oh, are we doing a roll call? I’m in. **MTCicero** looks dumb. ---
**Author:** ![MTCicero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a4c791/32.png) [@MTCicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MTCicero)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/29 "2010-05-08T01:52:46Z")
And you’re a goddamn bitch. Which is worse? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/30 "2010-05-08T02:00:47Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > And you’re a goddamn bitch. > > Which is worse? I was on your side until that! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/31 "2010-05-08T02:28:52Z")
The sounds that pit bull made when it was shot damn near broke my heart. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/32 "2010-05-08T02:39:08Z")
Moral of story: don’t do weed or the government will shoot your dogs, because it’s all the dogs’ fault. ---
**Author:** ![Basandre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@Basandre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Basandre)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/33 "2010-05-08T02:47:28Z")
I was kind of expecting that link to a different article to be just a teeny tiny bit supportive of the cops’ side, given all of **MT** ’s posts… not only was it not at all supportive of them, it had a link to vote in a poll on whether you think the cops’ actions were justitifed, and 92% of people have voted “no”. So yeah, an article that leads to a 7% approval rating, that really _is_ a brand new meaning of “support your local sherriff”. 😕 I think I’ll go support my local bookstore by shopping at Amazon. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/34 "2010-05-08T03:58:55Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Moral of story: don’t do weed or the government will shoot your dogs, because it’s all the dogs’ fault. True. I’m be more worried about getting shot myself, or going to prison and losing my job. Funny thing is, most people wouldn’t care if this was coke or something instead of mj. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/35 "2010-05-08T04:00:46Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > [Nope.](http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20100507/capt.a6c6e3df03a844c9a577011fc20e7672-a6c6e3df03a844c9a577011fc20e7672-0.jpg) It was a rhetorical question. Of course pepper spray works on dogs. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/36 "2010-05-08T04:12:13Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Oh, stop, or I’m liable to bust out crying. > > Now go back to diddling yourself. Or, you know, whatever it is you mods do to make yourselves feel important. But wash your fucking hands first, eh? [Still having trouble with your meds](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12426642#post12426642) or are you just the latest troll? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/37 "2010-05-08T04:16:58Z")
I don’t have a dog(sorry about the pun) in this fight, but given the history of the suspect > [@](#): > > In 2003, Whitworth pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute cocaine and marijuana in federal court and was ordered to serve 15 months in federal prison, according to court documents. . the police might have had a bit of justification for this. [http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/may/06/chief-details-swat-incident/](http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/may/06/chief-details-swat-incident/) Again, not trying to do anything here other than add some information. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/38 "2010-05-08T05:33:41Z")
Yah well, pot _is_ illegal… Same goes for immigration law. Arizona is stupid. They oughta do a database census: all those cameras on every streetcorner? Download the data of every person you can find into face recognition software, and just require _everyone_ to present their ID to some official within a certain time period. If it is a photo ID, these people can be crossed off the database census list. At the end of the period, everybody left on the list is under reasonable suspicion of not being in the country legally, not having voluntarily presented ID. Therefore, they all need to be hunted down like the dogs they are and forced to present ID. It’ll require a deportation panel, I know. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/39 "2010-05-08T08:12:32Z")
> [@MTCicero](#): > > Omigod! ::Wrings hands:: Some anonymous asshole on a message board thinks I look _dumb_! New guy jumping up and down shouting, “Look what I can do!” Yup, we got something for that. /ignore. ---
**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2010, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611/40 "2010-05-08T08:17:43Z")
Dude, you’re lost. The mexican bashing thread is [this way](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=561355). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-police-break-into-house-with-children-present-shoot-dogs-over-mj-possession/538611.md?page=3)