# Video shows Sean Combs beating the shit out of Cassie Ventura

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**Created:** [May 17, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-shows-sean-combs-beating-the-shit-out-of-cassie-ventura/1001723 "2024-05-17T21:28:44Z")\
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Video has been released that shows Sean Combs beating Cassie Ventura quite badly when she tried to leave a hotel they were in.

Man, I knew the guy was a jerk, but this is really bad. I hope he faces some fucking consequences for this.

> **[Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs seen physically assaulting Cassie Ventura in 2016...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/17/entertainment/sean-combs-cassie-ventura/index.html)**
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> A 2016 surveillance video obtained exclusively by CNN shows Sean “Diddy” Combs grab, shove, drag and kick his then-girlfriend Cassie Ventura during an altercation that matches allegations in a now-settled federal lawsuit filed by Ventura in November.

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Okay, Now I finally understand choosing the bear.

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I’m not watching the video. I can guess based on the description though that it’s pretty rough.

The hardest thing for me about public incidents like these is all the people who will still defend that guy because they like his music. It’s troubling when you realize how dysfunctional society is around violence against women.

ETA: Can he be criminally prosecuted for this? Because he should be.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-shows-sean-combs-beating-the-shit-out-of-cassie-ventura/1001723/4 "2024-05-17T22:18:55Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> ETA: Can he be criminally prosecuted for this? Because he should be.

Nope, from TMZ

> In terms of cops opening a case on this now, LAPD tells TMZ … For cases before January 2020, it’s a 3 year statute of limitations – and after January 2020, it’s 5 years. In other words, there’s no chance cops will dive into this specific incident for potential criminal charges at this point, at least as far as the LAPD is concerned.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-shows-sean-combs-beating-the-shit-out-of-cassie-ventura/1001723/5 "2024-05-17T22:31:44Z")

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I’m kinda wishing there were exceptions to statutes of limitation when new evidence comes to light.

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Saw this on TV earlier today and was thoroughly disgusted. Not sure how this plays into the case, sounds like probably not at all, but I will note the article linked in the OP it says there was a federal case about this that’s already been settled?

Nice to see another example of the fact that if you’re rich and powerful and famous enough in this country you can buy your way out of accountability.

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What a scumbag. Truly disgusting. I wonder how many others he abused. If he abused anyone within the statute of limitations, I hope to God they come forward.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
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My understanding he paid her in a settled lawsuit.

That man needs to have to pay more than money.  
I can’t imagine the little dab she got from his multi-millions.  
He needs to go down.

Yeah, don’t watch the video if you’re sensitive.  
I’m not necessarily sensitive but it hurts my heart to see that. There’s no audio but you can just imagine the nasty things he said to her. Had possibly been doing it for hours or days. Good god.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-shows-sean-combs-beating-the-shit-out-of-cassie-ventura/1001723/9 "2024-05-17T22:41:15Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I’m kinda wishing there were exceptions to statutes of limitation when new evidence comes to light.

I’m guessing this didn’t just come to light right now. I mean, it’s possible someone just happened to run across an 8 year old video of the incident, but my WAG is that someone has been sitting on it the whole time. But I understand what you mean, I’ve always been kinda on the fence about statute of limitations stuff.

Without knowing anything about the story beyond the few things I read today, I’m curious if she didn’t report it at the time because she just wanted to put it behind her and not have to file a complaint against him.

I thought I read that some other complaints against him were getting some traction, so I wonder if it’s part of that. She speaks up about an old incident, a few others come forward, then she releases the tape to give her story, and by extension, the others, credibility.

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**Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-shows-sean-combs-beating-the-shit-out-of-cassie-ventura/1001723/10 "2024-05-17T22:47:21Z")

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Well, he’s under federal investigation for human trafficking.  
And there are many abuse cases. I assume he’s paying off.

I bet there are many who were too afraid to even come forward. Maybe they will now.

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Right, I expect an increase in reports of incidents like this that were kept quiet while he was in a more unchallenged position.

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Well, he’s under federal investigation for human trafficking.

TIL. Thank you so much I was not aware of this. Definitely puts a new spin on things. I have vague recollections of hearing about scandals of his in the past. I don’t follow the music space that closely so I wasn’t aware of the full extent until today.

Am I the only one getting serious R. Kelly vibes here?

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> [@Jihi](#):
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> Am I the only one getting serious R. Kelly vibes here?

Why? Is Diddy accused of doing anything with anyone underage?

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Yes.

> **[Accusing a pop superstar of sex trafficking: What R. Kelly case tells us...](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-15/sean-diddy-combs-r-kelly-sex-trafficking-investigation)**
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> A sex-trafficking case that put singer R. Kelly behind bars is being built in much the same way against Sean "Diddy" Combs, Kelly's prosecutor says.

> In November, Combs’ former girlfriend Casandra Ventura, the singer known as Cassie, [accused him in a lawsuit of rape](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-11-16/sean-combs-diddy-rape-abuse-allegations-cassie-ventura-lawsuit). [Within a day](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-11-17/sean-diddy-combs-cassie-settlement-lawsuit-allegations-rape-abuse), he settled.

> Since then, [three other women have sued](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-12-13/sean-diddy-combs-cassie-sexual-assault-lawsuits) Combs, accusing him of rape, sex trafficking, assault and other abuses. One of the allegations involved a minor. A male producer also has sued him over [unwanted sexual contact](https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2024-02-27/diddy-lawsuit-lil-rod-sexual-assault-love-album).

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> I mean, it’s possible someone just happened to run across an 8 year old video of the incident, but my WAG is that someone has been sitting on it the whole time.

From my understanding of the article, Combs paid the hotel 50 grand for the footage. How CNN got it now is unknown, but Shithead definitely bought it off the hotel.

The most disturbing part for me is just after Ventura left the hotel, she became MORE afraid of what Combs would do if she left, so she tried to go back and apologize. Hotel security had to advise her to leave and stay away.

And they still let it be buried. While Combs is almost certainly getting his karmic reward now, I’m sure there are a whole lot of enablers along the way that succumbed to fame or money, who should also be visited by a just world.

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I wish I knew the brand of Hotel. That is just shameful.

What if he had murdered her? Would they have swept it under the rug for say $2mil?

They should be charged with withholding info on a crime being committed on their premises or something.

I suspect CNN got it with threatening to go to police. How they heard about it? Anyone’s guess.  
At least a few people, some maybe high up in the Organization, knew.

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I saw the video on TV news and was much disgusted. An article in the esteemed New York Post today says the county will not be pursuing this “due to the statute of linitations” on assault.

I am no lawyer. But this does not make sense to me on even brief thought. My knowledge of Canadian law is incomplete, law is local, and laws in other places differ. My questions:

1. AFAIK Canada does not have a statute of limitations for domestic abuse or violent crime. Does Los Angeles? What purpose does this serve?

2. Even when limitations law is a thing, it can sometimes be changed by other factors, such as being able to acquire proof. If a hotel knowingly “gave the evidence away” or sold it for profit, this proof might not have been obtainable. Does this affect the relevant limitations law?

3. And is the hotel liable for 1) aiding or abetting a crime, 2) failing to provide evidence of a crime to authorities, 3) any other infractions or items?

4. If the real reason was that the victim did not want this matter pursued at that time, what changes? Clearly duress is a factor, no? What if the victim made a legal agreement accepting damages while perpetuating the fiction of “no admission of guilt”?

5. What changes if a copy of the video was made?

Thank you for improving my ignorance of these matters.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/video-shows-sean-combs-beating-the-shit-out-of-cassie-ventura/1001723/18 "2024-05-18T17:46:28Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> AFAIK Canada does not have a statute of limitations for domestic abuse or violent crime. Does Los Angeles? What purpose does this serve?

LA, or rather the US, certainly has a statute of limitations on all kinds of things, abuse being one of them. The [Adult Survivors Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_Survivors_Act?useskin=vector) played a big part on the recent E Jean Carroll vs Trump trial.  
As far as what purpose it serves, I think a big part of it is that the longer you wait, the less concretely things can be proven. Evidence gets lost or mishandled, memories fade, scratches/cuts/bruises heal.  
I also wonder if it’s in place, at least in part, so if someone wrongs you in such a way that you want to get the law involved, you can. But what you can’t do is hold on to it for revenge. The SoL makes it harder to, for example, blackmail someone or wait until they’re rich and then sue them.

> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> And is the hotel liable for 1) aiding or abetting a crime, 2) failing to provide evidence of a crime to authorities, 3) any other infractions or items?

I feel like that’s going to depend on how the original incident played out. I thought I heard something about a settlement he had with her at the time. I could very much see part of a settlement being that he gets to keep the video or some other wording to ensure it doesn’t get released to the public.  
Off the top of my head, I don’t think she ever reported this to the police in the first place, but I could be wrong there. But if there was never any type of criminal or civil investigation, I’m not sure the hotel could get in trouble for not turning it over to the authorities.

> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> If the real reason was that the victim did not want this matter pursued at that time, what changes?

There could be a million reasons why. I do see that she used the above linked Adult Survivors Act to file the charge against him, so that might be the ‘change’. Enough time had passed that whatever stopped her from saying anything at the time is no longer stopping her, and the Adult Survivors Act gave her the ability to do something about it now.  
Also worth noting since it’s relevant here; She filed the case in Manhattan, not LA.

> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> What if the victim made a legal agreement accepting damages while perpetuating the fiction of “no admission of guilt”?

I could be misreading this, but I think either the first half or the second half of that question is wrong. Did you mean ‘suspect/defendant’ instead of ‘victim’?

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Maybe. An agreement would be between both. I meant that the victim received cash after taking legal measures, considered the matter over, but was under agreement not to comment.

Although memories may fade, the hotel video and public pictures of her with bruises days later are pretty suggestive.

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He has [apologized.](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyrr61417ylo)  
So that’s ok, then.

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