# Viewing works differently as you age

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 1, 2012, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394 "2012-02-01T05:14:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/41 "2012-02-03T19:50:15Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> More of my hypothesis that guys are just dogs with thumbs…

As a guy, i’m kinda proud\* of that characterization. I mean, hey, who doesn’t like a cute, loyal, uncomplicated dog?

\*Which of course makes your point for you.

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**Author:** ![C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecd19e/32.png) [@C.Montgomery\_Burns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C.Montgomery_Burns)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/42 "2012-02-04T01:13:28Z")

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> [@boozilu](#):
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> I loved My So Called Life when it first came out. I recently re-watched the first episode – and still loved it. However, this time all of my sympathy was with the mom when the first time I was totally feeling it for Angela.

I think the same thing when watching the Cosby Show. I’m always on Cliff and especially Claire’s side now that I’m an adult.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/43 "2012-02-04T01:38:11Z")

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> [@C.Montgomery\_Burns](#):
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> I think the same thing when watching the Cosby Show. I’m always on Cliff and especially Claire’s side now that I’m an adult.

Isn’t their relationship awesome? They’re always doin’ it!

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/44 "2012-02-04T02:28:09Z")

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The first thing that comes to mind is that I now find Lorelai Gilmore much, much hotter than Rory. But that’s not really what this thread is about, right?

I did notice that I couldn’t actually make it through the Drew Barrymore _Babes in Toyland_. What was delightful as a kid is now so incredibly boring and tedious. The only way I got appreciation out of it again was to watch someone riff it.

I also love that I finally get why Looney Toons is funny.

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2012, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/45 "2012-02-04T08:12:29Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> Honestly, I’m curious, since there seems to be this idea floating around more than one person’s head, apparently – where in the movie is it ever implied that Beetlejuice’s plan involves impregnating her? Consummation, I’ll concede, since I can see that as having some implied magical significance. But knocking her up?.

I don’t have a copy of the movie handy but I remember him saying at one point the purpose of the marriage was so he could get a new body, and I assumed that meant some kind of magical pregnancy woo woo. Unless the marriage will grant him a new body or he will possess Lydia after they are married or whatever.

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**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/46 "2012-02-06T19:01:11Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> McMurphy was a compete ass. I could see why she wanted to slap him down. Some guys just need it, sometimes. Nothing personal, but you do. And you understand it. More of my hypothesis that guys are just dogs with thumbs.
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> You really, truly do not want to give dogs, or guys, thumbs. One can only iimagine what we will do with them, and it can’t be good.

Build civilization? Create antibiotics? Jerk off?

We’re actually a species of ape. And if you can present another species or gender that has done anything half as awesome as what some male humans have accomplished with thumbs, I’d be interested to hear about it.

Statements like that annoy me. Of course we act like animals. We are animals. As if women don’t also act like animals. As if there weren’t plenty of women who needed to be metaphorically slapped down. As if the billions of men on the planet didn’t display a wide diversity of behavior.

Besides, everybody loves dogs!

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/47 "2012-02-07T00:10:14Z")

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When you’re a kid any story about an immortal makes you think “oh cool, live forever, that’s awesome!”

When you’re older, you start thinking “live forever, while everyone you know and love dies and leaves you alone and in misery? what a curse.”

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/48 "2012-02-07T01:10:17Z")

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Mentioned this in another thread recently: King of the Hill.

I was the same age as Bobby when it first aired, and so I always saw it as a show about Bobby that spent a lot of time on his parents. I saw it as something like a “Simpsons-lite” – troublemaker kid, boob father, competant-but-spineless mother. Only everybody was a little more subdued than their Simpsons couterparts.

Watching it again recently, I realize it’s really a very, very good show about Hank. He’s not a boob, just a simple, competant, decent guy who’s living in a strange world he’s not quite a part of. Bobby’s there entirely to reflect what Hank doesn’t understand. Hank and Peggy’s marriage, in particular, is incredibly honest and sweet.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/49 "2012-02-07T02:19:12Z")

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And maybe in a few years you’ll watch it again, and realise that their marriage is not honest ans sweet. Peggy is a totally narcissistic and selfish bitch, utterly ready to stab anyone in the back, including her family.

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**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/50 "2012-02-07T03:09:03Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> And maybe in a few years you’ll watch it again, and realise that their marriage is not honest ans sweet. Peggy is a totally narcissistic and selfish bitch, utterly ready to stab anyone in the back, including her family.

Actually, I think this is something that’s more of a “tone shifts over time” thing. The first 2-3 seasons of KotH are really the defining part of the show to me, and I think there’s a good give and take on display there. Peggy’s hardly perfect; the biggest running theme about her is that she’s much less smart than she thinks (and Hank more-or-less knows that), but I think they have something that works.

After the first few seasons, the whole tone gets cartoony-er, and I think both Peggy and Hank are less sympathetic.

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**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/viewing-works-differently-as-you-age/611394/51 "2012-02-07T03:14:52Z")

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There’s another thread on this board about _The Good Life_. The first time I watched it, I detested Margo and Jerry and was really into what the Goods were trying to do.

While Margo remained a snob in my view, on second viewing I had much more sympathy for her and Jerry. The Goods wanted to be self-sufficient but didn’t mind sponging on their neighbours whenever it suited them.

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