# Villainous characters who truly love one other person **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 10, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959 "2008-09-10T16:25:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/101 "2008-09-15T15:49:13Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Frank Burns loved Hotlips. But he loved his mother too. Much more than Hotlips. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/102 "2008-09-15T18:02:15Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > But he loved his mother too. Much more than Hotlips. The Consensual Incest thread is over in Great Debates. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/103 "2008-09-15T18:46:36Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Did we read the \* same \* Wuthering Heights? > > From memory and Wikipedia – > > a. Debauches, swindles, and possibly kills Hindley , Cathy’s brother in order to get the title to Wuthering Heights. > > b. Seduces and abuses Isabella Linton (hanging her dog on the way out). > > c. Threatens Edward Linton. > > d. Kidnaps Catherine and forces her to marry his son so that he can get the rights to Thrushcross Grange. > > e. Deliberately deprives Hareton of any access to education, condemning him to the kind of brutish upbringing that Heathcliff himself so resented. > Not sure what your definition of “villain” is, but Heathcliff fits mine. He’s not even an anti-hero. He’s a vengeful, brutal waste of air. I never read the novel, only saw the movie. I yield to your expertise. ---
**Author:** ![lobotomyboy63](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobotomyboy63/32/2900_2.png) [@lobotomyboy63](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobotomyboy63)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/104 "2008-09-15T22:01:07Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > I’ll be in ma’ bunk. Don’t you mean “I’ll be in ma’ bunker?” ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/105 "2008-09-15T22:29:20Z")
> [@lobotomyboy63](#): > > Don’t you mean “I’ll be in ma’ bunker?” "Bunker? That’s _right!_ Archie loved Edith! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2008, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/106 "2008-09-15T23:14:46Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > "Bunker? > > That’s _right!_ > > Archie loved Edith! > > 😃 And Gloria. And, in the end, even Mike. ---
**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/107 "2008-09-16T00:27:32Z")
Jack Randall, the sadistic, perverted villain of Diana Gabaldon’s \*Outlander \*series, loves his brother Alex. ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/108 "2008-09-16T07:52:14Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > "Bunker? > > That’s _right!_ > > Archie loved Edith! > > 😃 I wouldn’t classify Archie as evil, though. Ignorant and intolerant, sure, but not evil. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/109 "2008-09-16T08:21:15Z")
In _the Order of the Stick_, Nale and Sabine, while EEEEEEEEVIL through and through, do in fact sincerely love each other, as discussed in [this](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0349.html)strip. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/110 "2008-09-16T09:21:23Z")
Apophis loved Amonet in Stargate? ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/111 "2008-09-16T12:15:10Z")
Syndrome appears to have loved Mirage. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2008, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959/112 "2008-09-16T12:33:10Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > Syndrome appears to have loved Mirage. 😕 How so? ETA: Bill loved The Bride. “There are consequences to breaking the heart of a murdering bastard. You experienced some of them.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/villainous-characters-who-truly-love-one-other-person/462959.md?page=5)